The next item: RW discussion and predictions

[jayswin]

Marleau would be a neat add. Not sure how much he's got left in the tank but I'm sure he'd contribute a decent season.

[Gaudfather]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I could see the Flames interested in Bobby Ryan. Burke was pumping his tires not that long ago.

Of course, the Sens would need to take back a contract or retain some salary.

He must of learned how to spell "intense" and so now is in Burke's good books!

[slcrocket]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Bobby Ryan? Geez, that's really the kind of contract you want to avoid. Of course he would be a great compliment to our first line, but still, I'd only do it for Stajan and Bouma off our books. But then why would Ottawa do that?

We can just offer them all of our second round picks through 2027.

[Yanda]

I would like to see Frolik back on the left Side with Brouwer and Backlund, I think that could really help Brouwer get better value while freeing up Tkachuk to play with Bennett and either a UFA RW or Versteeg in a chippy Finesse style line.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Bobby Ryan? Geez, that's really the kind of contract you want to avoid. Of course he would be a great compliment to our first line, but still, I'd only do it for Stajan and Bouma off our books. But then why would Ottawa do that?

I could see Ottawa doing it because Ryan doesn't really fit on the top line there anymore. The contract is terrible, but more terrible for them than it would be for the Flames as they have RWers ahead of him on their depth chart. For us, he would be plugging a pretty big hole. Just to get rid of the contract would be a win for them.

He wouldn't be my first choice, but the acquisition cost would probably be low. But it would have to be contingent on them either keeping some salary or taking a bad contract back.

[TheScorpion]

I would take Ryan at 33% retained for Klimchuk, McDonald, Stajan, and Bouma.

But I'd rather acquire Cammalleri with some retained salary.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I could see Ottawa doing it because Ryan doesn't really fit on the top line there anymore. The contract is terrible, but more terrible for them than it would be for the Flames as they have RWers ahead of him on their depth chart. For us, he would be plugging a pretty big hole. Just to get rid of the contract would be a win for them.

He wouldn't be my first choice, but the acquisition cost would probably be low. But it would have to be contingent on them either keeping some salary or taking a bad contract back.

His last good season was 5 years ago. Pass.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

His last good season was 5 years ago. Pass.

That's not true. He was in pure beast mode for Ottawa in the playoffs this year. His impact on their run was full value of his contract. That alone IMO , is worth taking him on. We have the team to get him to the playoffs. If anything, I'd rank him 3rd on my wish list behind Kovalchuk and maybe Marleau

[Fire]

Originally Posted by dammage79

That's not true. He was in pure beast mode for Ottawa in the playoffs this year. His impact on their run was full value of his contract. That alone IMO , is worth taking him on. We have the team to get him to the playoffs. If anything, I'd rank him 3rd on my wish list behind Kovalchuk and maybe Marleau

That's the type of contract that could kill the Flames chances of winning the Cup. 25 points in 62 games last season. His good playoffs doesn't make up for that.

[Roof-Daddy]

Does anybody really see Treliving making a big splash for a winger?

Could be wrong, but I sure don't.

[Split98]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Bobby Ryan? Geez, that's really the kind of contract you want to avoid. Of course he would be a great compliment to our first line, but still, I'd only do it for Stajan and Bouma off our books. But then why would Ottawa do that?

I agree on Bobby having a contract you want to avoid. $7,250,000 is an enormous amount of money for what he's been producing lately.

But I wouldn't rule out guys like Stajan and Bouma being wants on other teams (not to say Ottawa is one of them). As much as I want to make room for guys like Hathaway, a good soldier like Stajan on the 4th is pretty invaluable.

If Ottawa retained a good chink of salary, I could see him being worth the gamble of a resurgence here.

Would be a deal full of retained salaries, conditional picks and a good prospect going their way though.

[Split98]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Does anybody really see Treliving making a big splash for a winger?

Could be wrong, but I sure don't.

And unless Brouwer is going the other way, I hope he doesn't.

Ferland played very well there, and Johnny+Mony played very well with him on that line. It wasn't a short stint either -- 6 or so weeks is a long time to demonstrate this isn't just a fluke. If we called that our 2nd line, most around here should be pretty happy with how that was looking. We certainly have a very productive 1st line that doesn't get the moniker.

Brouwer (4,500,000) / Ferland (2,000,000?) / Frolik (4,300,000) is a decent chunk of change tied into RW already. Depending on Brouwer's rebound, the Johnny+Mony line will be an option for him. At the very least, he'll have an opportunity to prove himself as a good (albeit overpaid) 3rd liner with Bennett.

Hope he keeps his ears open for opportunities, but I'd hope he isn't going to just pile someone else on and logjam our forwards.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Fire

That's the type of contract that could kill the Flames chances of winning the Cup. 25 points in 62 games last season. His good playoffs doesn't make up for that.

He was only 9th on his team for ice time among forwards last season - basically their version of Alex Chiasson. He was also only 5th for PP time among forwards.

If he was given 1st line ice time, I suspect he would produce a lot more again.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

He was only 9th on his team for ice time among forwards last season - basically their version of Alex Chiasson. He was also only 5th for PP time among forwards.

If he was given 1st line ice time, I suspect he would produce a lot more again.

You have to question why he got so little ice time and if you would want to risk taking that contract for a 30+ year old player.

[DJones]

I'm happy with Ferland but I also want Ferland with Bennett. Getting that 3rd line going is key.

Tkachuk, Jankowski, Bennett, and Ferland.

Putting Brouwer with Backlund or Monahan would solve a lot of problems

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Does anybody really see Treliving making a big splash for a winger?

Could be wrong, but I sure don't.

I don't think Treliving is overly concerned about finding a top winger. From the sounds of it signing Mike Stone or another number 5 D is the next priority.

Here is the current lineup for next year.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland(RFA)
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Lazar(RFA)-Bennett(RFA)-Brouwer
Bouma-Stajan-Chiasson(RFA)

With Versteeg(UFA), Jankowski, Hathaway, and any other prospect in the mix.

I think the Flames try and find room for Jankowski and it wouldn't shock me to see them shop Stajan for a late round pick. They could open up a couple more spots by burying Bouma and walking away from Chiasson. That way they could keep Versteeg and potentially get another top line winger (Marleau would be a great fit)

[oldschoolcalgary]

Bobby Ryan?

Well, I mean he has potential...but at 7.25/year?

Not only is that contract a lot to take on, but he suddenly jumps guys like Mony, Johnny and Gio...

I don't think that's a good idea to bring a guy on with that kind of contract based on what his production has been...and he immediately goes to the top of the food chain

Now if you can get them to take Brouwer on and eat some of that contract so it's less than the other guys on the team, it might be possible...

[Machiavelli]

Far too many years left on that Ryan contract, no thanks

[IrishSpring2013]

bobby ryan...??
i certainly hope anyone who hates troy brouwer either before or after the signing isn't wanting to get this bum...

they both had 13 goals and 25 points last season.. and in the four seasons since Ryan joined the ducks brouwer has OUT SCORED ryan by one goal... 77 to 76..

i wouldnt do brouwer for ryan one-for-one in a deal.

[Goriders]

Go get Jagr on a 1 year contract.

That would be awesome.

Monahan would score 70 goals between him and Johnny.