04-21-2017, 07:22 PM
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First Line Centre
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UFA
Kris Versteeg - Y
Dennis Wideman - N
Deryk Engelland - Probably
Michael Stone - Y
Brandon Bollig - N
Brian Elliott - N
Chad Johnson - N
Mike Kostka - N
RFA
Sam Bennett - Y
Curtis Lazar - Y
Micheal Ferland - Y
Alex Chiasson - Probably
David Rittich - Y
Kenney Morrison - N
Jon Gillies - Y
Linden Vey - Probably
Garnet Hathaway - Y
Ryan Culkin - N
Brett Kulak - Y
Tyler Wotherspoon - Probably
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04-21-2017, 07:29 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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They should bring Wideman back at a pay cut
like 4.5M per for 5 years
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04-21-2017, 07:29 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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UFA
Kris Versteeg - 1 yr $1.5 max
Deryk Engelland - 2 yr $1.5 max
Michael Stone - 4 yr $4.25 (signed after July 1st)
Chad Johnson - 1 yr $1.7 (Gillies isn't ready to be gifted a spot yet)
RFA
Sam Bennett (2 yr $2.0 mill)
Curtis Lazar (Qualifying offer)
Micheal Ferland (3 yr $2.5 mill)
Alex Chiasson - not qualified
David Rittich - not qualified
Kenney Morrison - not qualified
Jon Gillies - qualified
Linden Vey - qualified (The Heat need some veterans)
Garnett Hathaway - qualified
Ryan Culkin - not qualified
Brett Kulak - qualified
Tyler Wotherspoon - qualified
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04-21-2017, 07:32 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
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Is there a reason I can't think of why someone wouldn't qualify David Rittich?
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04-21-2017, 07:40 PM
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#25
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
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I don't get how people think Stone will take 3x3.
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04-21-2017, 07:50 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Is there a reason I can't think of why someone wouldn't qualify David Rittich?
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I don't trust either Gillies or Rittich to handle the backup spot next season. Gillies had only one full season in the AHL and wasn't exactly lights out. Rittich was better but also doesn't have enough experience. Need room for Parsons in the AHL next season. Simply no room for Rittich.
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04-21-2017, 07:56 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
I don't trust either Gillies or Rittich to handle the backup spot next season. Gillies had only one full season in the AHL and wasn't exactly lights out. Rittich was better but also doesn't have enough experience. Need room for Parsons in the AHL next season. Simply no room for Rittich.
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I dunno. You sign the guy out of the Czech league and bring him over to the AHL where he puts up 2.27 / 0.924 with 5 shut outs in 31 games in his first season in NA I think you need to see where it goes. The guy couldn't really have done much more.
I guess we'll see.
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04-21-2017, 08:04 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
I dunno. You sign the guy out of the Czech league and bring him over to the AHL where he puts up 2.27 / 0.924 with 5 shut outs in 31 games in his first season in NA I think you need to see where it goes. The guy couldn't really have done much more.
I guess we'll see.
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I just don't see Treliving leaving the backup spot for Gillies/Rittich to battle over. That's really the only way they could keep Rittich. Seems too risky for a team that will have a lot of pressure to improve on their first round exit this season. I wouldn't be against if Treliving decides to do it but if your #1 goes down long term... eek you better hope one of those guys are actually ready for prime time.
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04-21-2017, 08:22 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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Originally Posted by DoubleK
I don't get how people think Stone will take 3x3.
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That's what I'm wondering too.
He's in his prime earning years, and while he didn't put up points like he has in the past, he's shown he can probably be a top 4 guy somewhere. I don't see him taking a million dollar pay cut, which is why I don't think we should bring him back.
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04-21-2017, 09:09 PM
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#30
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First Line Centre
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I think with Treliving taking about a push from the bottom, I'm not sure we'll see a lot of free agents back
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04-21-2017, 09:16 PM
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Is there a reason I can't think of why someone wouldn't qualify David Rittich?
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No. Was solid in Stockton. Outplayed Gillies for most of the season. Possible NHL backup next season.
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04-21-2017, 09:22 PM
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#32
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: TEXAS!!
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UFA
Kris Versteeg $1.5m x 2 years
Dennis Wideman. Thank you for your time.
Deryk Engelland. Will wear a letter in Las Vegas
Michael Stone. $4.2 x 4 years
Brandon Bollig. Thank you for your time.
Brian Elliott. $2m x 2 years (low-ball offer as backup)
Chad Johnson. $1.5m x 2 years
Mike Kostka. Thank you for your time.
RFA
Sam Bennett. $2.8m x 2 years
Curtis Lazar. $900k two-way
Micheal Ferland. $1.8m x 2 years
Alex Chiasson. $1.0m x 2 years
David Rittich. Min qualifying offer
Kenney Morrison. Min qualifying offer
Jon Gillies. Min qualifying offer
Linden Vey. Min qualifying offer
Garnet Hathaway. Min qualifying offer
Ryan Culkin. Thank you for your time.
Brett Kulak. Min qualifying offer
Tyler Wotherspoon. Min qualifying offer
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04-21-2017, 09:23 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Bolded resign.
UFA
Kris Versteeg
Dennis Wideman
Deryk Engelland
Michael Stone
Brandon Bollig
Brian Elliott
Chad Johnson
Mike Kostka
RFA
Sam Bennett
Curtis Lazar
Micheal Ferland
Alex Chiasson
David Rittich
Kenney Morrison
Jon Gillies
Linden Vey
Garnet Hathaway
Ryan Culkin
Brett Kulak
Tyler Wotherspoon
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04-21-2017, 09:31 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Re-sign.
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04-21-2017, 09:58 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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Kris Versteeg
Michael Stone
Sam Bennett
Curtis Lazar
Micheal Ferland
David Rittich
Kenney Morrison
Jon Gillies
Garnet Hathaway
Ryan Culkin
Brett Kulak
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04-21-2017, 09:58 PM
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Norm!
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UFA
Kris Versteeg - he'll probably want a raise from his 950 k contract and some term. 2 years 1.8
Dennis Wideman - nope
Deryk Engelland - I think he'll be a big of a commidity as a UFA, and I doubt he'll come back here without a good deal. I also really don't want to pay him at his current rate. So I'd be tempted to let him go and fill his spot with Andersson.
Michael Stone - yes if we can sign him after the expansion draft. He's probably going to barrier at 4.5 for 4 years.
Brandon Bollig - nope
Brian Elliott - nice guy but he's done here.
Chad Johnson - offer him another 1 year deal at 1.7
Mike Kostka
RFA
Sam Bennett 2 years at 2 million will probably be ok for both or 3 years at 2.5
Curtis Lazar - I'd be tempted to say QO
Micheal Ferland - 3 years at 2.8 could be a bargain contract
Alex Chiasson - 2 years at 1 million
David Rittich - nope,
Kenney Morrison - nope
Jon Gillies qualifying option
Linden Vey - nope
Garnet Hathaway - qualify
Ryan Culkin - qualify
Brett Kulak - qualify
Tyler Wotherspoon - I doubt he accepts his qualifying offer
Who do you bring back?
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04-21-2017, 10:15 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Djibouti
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For those that put stock in such things, Stone's advanced stats really weren't great with Calgary. In fact, Wideman's personal CF% prior to the deadline was better than Stone's post trade deadline, and Brodie's CF% was better with Wideman than with Stone. I wouldn't offer him a long term deal without kicking some other tires.
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04-21-2017, 10:29 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike F
For those that put stock in such things, Stone's advanced stats really weren't great with Calgary. In fact, Wideman's personal CF% prior to the deadline was better than Stone's post trade deadline, and Brodie's CF% was better with Wideman than with Stone. I wouldn't offer him a long term deal without kicking some other tires.
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Interesting.
Seems to me most defensive Dmen don't have great Corsi or possession stats. Is it just the style they play or are their some non point getting defensive Dmen out there that actually have great possession stats?
Also, you look around to find a good top 4 right shot Dman to pair with Brodie that would be an upgrade on Stone and it's like looking for a needle in a hay stack.
I'd love to get Manson but I can't see that ever happening. Who else is really out there?
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04-21-2017, 11:01 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Interesting.
Seems to me most defensive Dmen don't have great Corsi or possession stats. Is it just the style they play or are their some non point getting defensive Dmen out there that actually have great possession stats?
Also, you look around to find a good top 4 right shot Dman to pair with Brodie that would be an upgrade on Stone and it's like looking for a needle in a hay stack.
I'd love to get Manson but I can't see that ever happening. Who else is really out there?
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Vlasic (though he got better at offense), Hjalmarsson, Tanev, Stralman all dominate fancy stats without putting up huge point totals.
Vancouver seems to really want to trade Tanev but I have no idea what they'd want for him. I would love him on the Flames.
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