06-25-2017, 02:41 PM
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#101
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Split98
Personally, I think Tkachuk will fit in pretty well on that roster
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Bah, I knew I was forgetting someone.
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06-25-2017, 02:44 PM
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#102
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Bah, I knew I was forgetting someone.
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Brouwer on 3M tipped me off
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06-25-2017, 02:46 PM
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#103
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Split98
Brouwer on 3M tipped me off
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Well, no, that was intentional. I think it would be a good fit for him to regain his confidence and produce more
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06-25-2017, 02:47 PM
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#104
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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For Versteeg, it is really going to depend on cost and term. On a short "show me" deal, he was great, but he has an inconsistent history. We shouldn't forget that last season, he was all but out of the league until Edmonton gave him a PTO.
If Versteeg is going to get more than $2.5 million, I would be inclined to see what else is out there. And I suspect some team will offer him a lot.
Same thing with Stone really. He fit pretty good last season, but I don't see him as a $4 million player on the Flames. You can't spend that on a 5th/6th defenseman, and I don't suspect he will want to take a big pay cut.
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Last edited by FlamesAddiction; 06-25-2017 at 04:32 PM.
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06-25-2017, 02:50 PM
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#105
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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I think Wotherspoon, Vey and Morrison move on.
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06-25-2017, 02:55 PM
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#106
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Well, no, that was intentional. I think it would be a good fit for him to regain his confidence and produce more
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Oh it could. Just how I noticed
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06-25-2017, 04:15 PM
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#107
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MissTeeks
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The CBA says the later of June 25 or the first Monday after the Entry Draft, so they should have until tomorrow at 3:00pm MT.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CBA 10.2.a.ii
In order to receive a Right of First Refusal or Draft Choice Compensation (at the Prior Club's option) with respect to a Restricted Free Agent, the Prior Club of a Restricted Free Agent must tender to the Player, no later than 5:00 p.m. New York time on the later of June 25 or the first Monday after the Entry Draft of the final year of the Player's SPC, a "Qualifying Offer"
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06-25-2017, 04:46 PM
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#108
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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NHL
Ferland - $945,000 (one-way) - Signed to 3 yrs $2.2/yr
Lazar - $874,125/$70,000 - Qualified and he signs the qualifying offer.
Bennett - $874,125/$70,000 - Signed to 2 yrs $2.5/yr
Chiasson - $840,000 (one-way) - Not qualified.
AHL
Culkin - $660,000/$70,000 - Not qualified
Kulak - $660,000/$70,000 - Qualified
Wotherspoon - $687,500/$125,000 - Qualified
Hathaway - $715,000/$70,000 - Qualified
Vey - $735,000/$325,000 - Qualified, but will play in Europe.
Gillies - $874,125/$70,000 - Qualified
Morrison - $874,125/$70,000 - Not Qualifed
Rittich - $874,125/$92,500 - Qualified
Versteeg not re-signed. Jankowski takes his spot on the PP.
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06-25-2017, 05:00 PM
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#109
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Is that really around what it is going to take to sign Ferland - 3x2.2M?
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06-25-2017, 05:13 PM
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#110
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Kris Versteeg
Michael Stone
Sam Bennett
Curtis Lazar
Micheal Ferland
Alex Chiasson
David Rittich
Jon Gillies
Garnet Hathaway
Brett Kulak
Tyler Wotherspoon
Bring back/Qualify
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06-25-2017, 06:05 PM
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#111
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
Is that really around what it is going to take to sign Ferland - 3x2.2M?
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Too high? Too low? Might be on the high side, but a 3 year deal buys one year of unrestricted free agency and he has arbitration rights.
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06-25-2017, 06:27 PM
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#112
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
Too high? Too low? Might be on the high side, but a 3 year deal buys one year of unrestricted free agency and he has arbitration rights.
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Never thought about a year of unrestricted.
Yes. I thought it high, but I dunno.
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06-25-2017, 07:27 PM
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#113
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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Call me crazy, but Ferland is one of those players I would try to get locked down for term with minimal cash. I think his skill set is unique and he has yet to hit his peak. I have a feeling in 3 years he will require Brouwer/Frolik money.
5/6 years, $2.9/per.
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06-25-2017, 10:07 PM
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#114
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: I will never cheer for losses
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Only UFAs I bring back are stone (if the contract is reasonable) and Versteeg
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anduril
"Putting nets on puck."
- Ferland 2016
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06-25-2017, 10:12 PM
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#115
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: I will never cheer for losses
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Bennet, Lazar, Ferland, Gillies, Rittich, Hathaway, Kulak are the RFAs I'd bring back. And I'm undecided on Ferland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
I am demolishing this bag of mini Mr. Big bars.
Halloween candy is horrifying.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anduril
"Putting nets on puck."
- Ferland 2016
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06-25-2017, 10:20 PM
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#116
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkhouser
Call me crazy, but Ferland is one of those players I would try to get locked down for term with minimal cash. I think his skill set is unique and he has yet to hit his peak. I have a feeling in 3 years he will require Brouwer/Frolik money.
5/6 years, $2.9/per.
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The problem is guys that play Ferland's style tend to break down suddenly. The human body can only withstand that kind of punishment for so long..
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06-25-2017, 10:24 PM
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#117
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Retired
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Back in Guelph
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
The problem is guys that play Ferland's style tend to break down suddenly. The human body can only withstand that kind of punishment for so long..
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That's why I like that we didn't see playoff Ferland after that first appearance. The guy can fly and has great hands and a great shot. Also absolutely lit it up in the WHL. Can't wear yourself down with 10 hits a night. I hope he develops into a more of a top 6 power forward, than a bottom 6 slugger.
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06-25-2017, 10:40 PM
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#118
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flamesfan1297
Bennet, Lazar, Ferland, Gillies, Rittich, Hathaway, Kulak are the RFAs I'd bring back. And I'm undecided on Ferland
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Are you serious?
You wouldnt bring back Ferland? Is pot legal today?
Ferland is an RFA, you qualify him then sign him. Even if you dont like Ferland you still sign him. Otherwise you are just throwing assets away for nothing.
I think if Treliving put a tweet out on twitter saying we want a third round pick for Ferland he would get 30 tweets back from GM's around the league saying "Done".
I dont know what Ferland will be, but he has alot of value at this moment.
Personally I think this will be his break out season. I think he figures out the player he is.
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06-25-2017, 10:47 PM
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#119
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlamesVan
That's why I like that we didn't see playoff Ferland after that first appearance. The guy can fly and has great hands and a great shot. Also absolutely lit it up in the WHL. Can't wear yourself down with 10 hits a night. I hope he develops into a more of a top 6 power forward, than a bottom 6 slugger.
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Playoff Ferland was so fun to watch against Vancouver. Guys got way more skill than that though. Gonna be a long time till we see that type of playoff performance from a player. You can not play that way in the league and survive.
If we can get a third of that aggressiveness on a regular basis, and the skill Ferland has shown in flashes, he will have a great season.
He is not slow, he has a wicked shot, tough as nails. My only question here is hockey IQ. If he has it this will be his breakout season, if he doesn't he will be a talented third line grinder.
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06-25-2017, 10:58 PM
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#120
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First Line Centre
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UFA
Kris Versteeg: 1-3 years at $2.5 or under
Dennis Wideman
Deryk Engelland
Michael Stone: 1 or 2 years at $2.0 or under
Brandon Bollig
Brian Elliott
Chad Johnson: 1 year at $1.5 or under
Mike Kostka
RFA
Sam Bennett
Curtis Lazar
Micheal Ferland
Alex Chiasson
David Rittich
Kenney Morrison
Jon Gillies
Linden Vey
Garnet Hathaway
Ryan Culkin
Brett Kulak
Tyler Wotherspoon
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