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Old 04-24-2024, 05:31 PM   #6201
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Why not just nuke all of Gaza and get rid of the problem once and for all?

No Gaza civilians = no Hamas. Seems like a pretty easy solution.
Why not support Israel in eradicating Hamas? I wonder if the civilians helping?
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Old 04-24-2024, 05:52 PM   #6202
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You can say whatever you want here, but you can't quote it. Any claims I made have been backed up. Now I am not a good person? Go on and defend the side murdering LGB and free speech. Somehow I am bad?



You couldn't find a hateful post from me. This is just meaningless nonsense that your 'side' will lap up. For years I have asked for an argument for peace, you just say nope, you are evil. That is it, that is the sum of your argument. You are amongst some bad people on your side, just go to a protest and see who wants death for the other side. It certainly hasn't been my experience on the pro Israel side.



What a joke - Iran wants peace for Palestinians? They want Jews dead, nothing more than that. If Israel were gone, Israel, Gaza and West Bank will likely be absorbed by Syria.


I don't disappear, that is just more of your fantasy hateful nonsense. I just watch and read, you guys unprovoked say the worst things. Especially you, the bastion of human rights, triggers and micro aggressions, for anyone but one group.
Iran wants all jews dead???? This is hyperbolic bull####. Nobody wants to eradicate the world of all its jews. Stop with this.
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I may be generalizing, but a lot of the disagreements in this thread don’t necessarily relate to whether Hamas should or not be eliminated (I would hope that would be obvious), but more so the tactics that Israel is using.

However, I think the general sentiment is still that what Hamas did was vile and a terrorist act.

However, what I cannot understand and what has left me scratching my head is the absolute rot that has taken over mostly Ivy League campuses in the States. Outright support for Hamas, saying their actions were justified. Championing their cause, and people yelling “We are Hamas”. Making demands such as the universities “divest” from Israel, where they don’t even know what they want the schools to divest from when questioned. “Queers for Palestine” rallies. If this is what progressive academia is teaching these kids, then god help us.


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Iran wants all jews dead???? This is hyperbolic bull####. Nobody wants to eradicate the world of all its jews. Stop with this.
Yeah If that was true wouldn't they start with the jews living inside Iran?
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Yeah If that was true wouldn't they start with the jews living inside Iran?
If anyone wanted to kill all the Jews, as Netanyahu and his lap dogs keep professing, they would start with anywhere other than Israel. Alas, zionism's life blood is crisis inflation, and this is a prime example.
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It's not just American universities - here in Toronto people openly call for violence against Israelis and are glorifying Hamas' atrocities on Oct 7.

It's like we are witnessing the rise of the KKK all over again. Antisemitism is spreading unchecked.
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You can say whatever you want here, but you can't quote it. Any claims I made have been backed up. Now I am not a good person? Go on and defend the side murdering LGB and free speech. Somehow I am bad?



You couldn't find a hateful post from me. This is just meaningless nonsense that your 'side' will lap up. For years I have asked for an argument for peace, you just say nope, you are evil. That is it, that is the sum of your argument. You are amongst some bad people on your side, just go to a protest and see who wants death for the other side. It certainly hasn't been my experience on the pro Israel side.



What a joke - Iran wants peace for Palestinians? They want Jews dead, nothing more than that. If Israel were gone, Israel, Gaza and West Bank will likely be absorbed by Syria.

I don't disappear, that is just more of your fantasy hateful nonsense. I just watch and read, you guys unprovoked say the worst things. Especially you, the bastion of human rights, triggers and micro aggressions, for anyone but one group.
Exactly, “blah blah blah, it’s everyone else, you’re all bad, I just want peace” and then follow it up by calling it a “joke” to suggest that the innocent Palestinians, Israelis, Iranians, Egyptians, and foreign aid workers caught in all this are worth caring about.

The difference between you and I is that you see the “sides” as Israelis vs Palestinians, and lump critics and supporters in each side accordingly. I see the sides as people who want peace and people who don’t. You go ahead and decide what side you’re actually on, and if we’re on the same one, then maybe re-evaluate how you treat people who want the same things despite disagreeing on how to get there, and let go of the hate.

I know there are bad people on the side you think I’m on. I know there are people that really do support Hamas. I know there are anti-semitic and horrible people at protests and around the world in general. I get it. But you can’t seem to understand that there are good people, too, and a lot more of them. I know you think otherwise, but criticizing the Israeli government, or even just being Palestinian (or Iranian, for that matter) doesn’t make someone a bad person, no matter how much you want to hate them for who they are. Those people are the victims, not you or I. And the people who are making them victims aren’t just Hamas and Iran, but the Israeli government as well (especially the far right elements).

You also seem to be a big fan of saying things you can’t quote. But you’re only lying to yourself Nage, the only people who buy it are the incredibly tiny group of trash posters who call Palestinians animals, deaths of innocent children a benefit, and who wish death on people who disagree with them. There might be some awful people who agree with some of my points for very different motivations, but I don’t know of anyone who isn’t terrible who has ever agreed with you. Good company, I guess.
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It's not just American universities - here in Toronto people openly call for violence against Israelis and are glorifying Hamas' atrocities on Oct 7.

It's like we are witnessing the rise of the KKK all over again. Antisemitism is spreading unchecked.
How is this relevant to the discussion at hand? Honest question. We are talking about the genocide happening in Gaza and what happened to innocent Israeli citizens on Oct 7th.

All that other talk is just deflection and not relevant to what's happening over seas.

Some racists are being racist at a university? Ok...don't see why that should be mentioned in this thread. Maybe needs it's own thread because no matter what some lunatics say at a university it is still totally irrelevant to the indiscriminate killing of innocents on both sides.
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Old 04-24-2024, 10:40 PM   #6209
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It's not just American universities - here in Toronto people openly call for violence against Israelis and are glorifying Hamas' atrocities on Oct 7.

It's like we are witnessing the rise of the KKK all over again. Antisemitism is spreading unchecked.
This is definitely true.

The problem is people are conflating Jewish = supportive of the Israeli government and Palestinian = Hamas.

While this is true in some cases, hateful people are conveniently picking one side of this equation to focus on to justify their blanket hate.
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It's not just American universities - here in Toronto people openly call for violence against Israelis and are glorifying Hamas' atrocities on Oct 7.

It's like we are witnessing the rise of the KKK all over again. Antisemitism is spreading unchecked.
Pretty sure I literally said 6-7 months ago that antisemitism will grow because Isreal continues to conflate Judaism with Zionism.

If you can convince most of the western worth that they are one and the same, then you'll see anti-Jewishness everywhere.

Thankfully, most people are uneasily growing awareness and can see a stark contrast between Jews and Zionists.
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It's not just American universities - here in Toronto people openly call for violence against Israelis and are glorifying Hamas' atrocities on Oct 7.

It's like we are witnessing the rise of the KKK all over again. Antisemitism is spreading unchecked.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...-yay-for-hamas

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Among the hordes cheering on Hamas from university campuses and the streets of America are among the most privileged kids in the world. There’s the pricey North Face coats, keffiyeh, of course, and a slew of other luxe goods.

Of the 114 anti-Israel protesters slammed behind bars in the Big Apple following protests at Columbia University, many emerged from behind the gilded gates of the country’s richest families.

Kids of executives were there along with the politically well-connected. Here are some of the brat pack who grew up in multimillion-dollar palaces, attended private schools and have spent their whole lives being spoiled rotten.

Many of those arrested attended elite Barnard College. Cost? $90,000 per annum.
A handful of the Hamas supporters in the US. They aren’t exactly the finest members of society, just spoiled rich kids. I don’t think anyone on this board would want to be associated with what they stand for.

Well, except maybe Q, he is the only one on this board that I know of who believes Hamas should maintain power in Gaza.
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No wonder your opinions are what they are. Stop reading trash, maybe? Please?
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No wonder your opinions are what they are. Stop reading trash, maybe? Please?
What are my opinions?
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What are my opinions?
Where you call protestors "Hamas supporters". You think because someone is standing against Israel's indiscriminate killing that they must support terrorists.

I actually took a minute to go find a real source for what you shared, because there was absolutely nothing of use in the doxing files from a trash organization where you seem to get your "news" from. Why don't you read actual information? Are you satisfied with what that hack shared?

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news...s-campus-gate/

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A handful of the Hamas supporters in the US. They aren’t exactly the finest members of society, just spoiled rich kids. I don’t think anyone on this board would want to be associated with what they stand for.

Well, except maybe Q, he is the only one on this board that I know of who believes Hamas should maintain power in Gaza.
Well, nobody here supports Hamas. But, there’s actually no evidence any of those people are Hamas supporters either, and these protests are Pro-Palestinian, not pro-Hamas, so while their may be some people among them who are anti-semitic or pro-Hamas, painting the entire protests that way is just another in a long list of examples of anti-Palestinian hate.

Why are you even sharing that trash opinion piece? The guy is obviously an #######, and I can imagine reading it and thinking anything beyond that unless you’re also an ####### and actually thought it was on point.
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Quiz time: “Go back to Poland” shouted at Jews.

Stormfront or Columbia student protestor?
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Well, nobody here supports Hamas. But, there’s actually no evidence any of those people are Hamas supporters either, and these protests are Pro-Palestinian, not pro-Hamas, so while their may be some people among them who are anti-semitic or pro-Hamas, painting the entire protests that way is just another in a long list of examples of anti-Palestinian hate.

Why are you even sharing that trash opinion piece? The guy is obviously an #######, and I can imagine reading it and thinking anything beyond that unless you’re also an ####### and actually thought it was on point.
I agree that not all protesters are Hamas supporters, I never said that they were. But they he Hamas supporters amongst them are #######s.
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I hadn't even heard of these campus protests until now and took starseeds word that they were anti sematic and people were glorifying Hamas.

Read up on it and that couldn't be further from the truth. Some people are using the protests to spew their hate but the overwhelming majority are trying to protest in peace.

I know the Pro Israel crowd doesn't like it but the world is waking up to the atrocities committed by Israel. Thanks to social media like TikTok, the world doesn't get their news filtered by zionist backed social media or news corporation companies.

Kids being slaughtered on show for public to see really hits a nerve with people who love humanity.
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Quiz of the day: “Go back to Poland” shouted at Jews.

Stormfront or Columbia student protestor?
It really does seem like people are intentionally ignoring history.

The anti-Jew policies in Nazi Germany primarily began in schools & universities.

I guess easy to dupe the stupid.
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I agree that not all protesters are Hamas supporters, I never said that they were. But they he Hamas supporters amongst them are #######s.
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A handful of the Hamas supporters in the US. They aren’t exactly the finest members of society, just spoiled rich kids. I don’t think anyone on this board would want to be associated with what they stand for.
-snip-.
You just posted an "article" with a bunch of protesters identified, then you flagged them as Hamas supporters with no evidence of it!

That's the problem, you enmesh yourself with these trash opinions so much that you don't even see when you are doing it. Stop it.
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