It wouldn't make a difference but maybe some of you wouldn't look so petty. Canucks and Oilers deserve it and I snipe them to, but do we need a bitch thread for every Canadian team in the league? It's getting to that point.
Its kind of sad how some sit here and talk about how classless x y z fan base is and then on the other hand turn around and whine in multiple team based bitch threads like a pack of old housewives. Is there an inferiority complex that we need cut every Canadian team down a peg if they start showing any signs of success? lol. Anyways enjoy yourself different strokes for different folks I guess.
I don't understand this post.
...or maybe I am struggling to see through my blinding hatred of other Canadian NHL franchises. Is there anything more Canadian than hating other Canadian NHL teams? (Well, except for Ottawa, because ... Ottawa ...)
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- I don't see Ehlers as a super-prospect, might be a good top 6er. Kyle Connor might be their best prospect otoh. I was real annoyed when he miraculously fell to them.
- Hellybuyck scares me. It'll be nice if he doesn't pan out.
- Their blueline depth doesn't scare me. Trouba/Myers/Morrisey is okay, but I feel more comfortable with Brodie/Hamilton/Hickey.
- Jets fans around the internet are pretty obnoxious with their advanced stats. It's funny, because even Kings fans, whose team is an advanced stats God, don't argue they're the end-all be-all, but not Jets fans. Jets fans are a hive mind of Fenwick-Close.
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Ummm, no. The Flames fans, if anything, under-expected vis-a-vis Gaudreau and debated whether Bennett should even play this year after his injury. Plus Bennett was a number 3 OAP who could have easily been a number 1.
A better comparable for some having high expectations for a mid-range pick like Ehlers is probably Sven.
I hated them in the 80s more than Vancouver, and I still hate them now. The city is even worse than Edmonton and they can shove all their prospects up their Hawerchuk.
...from what I understand both fan basses like each others team. We cheered for each other in the playoffs.
I sure as hell didn't. For the (very, very short) duration of Winnipeg's pathetic playoff appearance I was hoping the franchise would somehow implode into non-existence.
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I don't think the Jets' future is nearly as bright as portrayed by the media, and the general hockey world. It's not that they're bad. In fact I would say the thread title is wrong. They are "good." But just good. I just can't get hyped about Ladd-Little-Wheeler, Enstrom-Myers today. They get a lot of credit for having prospects who are TSN darlings and World junior superstars.
TSN says the Jets have the best prospect pool, however that really remains to be seen. If Hellebuyck, Morrissey, and Ehlers live up to the hype surrounding them, the Jets could become a Stanley Cup contender. The real test will be keeping the star players (Trouba, Ladd, Scheifele, etc).
Winnipeg let Frolik go, and kept Stafford. I'm not too impressed with that move.
I don't think the Oilers will compete for a playoff spot for another couple of years. Vancouver is on the decline.
I think the biggest obstacle impeding the Jets success is the division they play in. They can have a pretty good regular season and still only makes the playoffs as a wildcard.
/As far as the poll is concerned, I don't mind the Jets, of course having a relative who helped them to a AVCO Cup in their final WHA season likely sways my vote.
My dislike for Edmonton has nothing to do with them being a rival, and everything to do with them playing disgracefully bad hockey year after year, while getting rewarded for it. They have tried their best to ruin a good string of solid hockey prospects, and in many cases succeeded. Their fans and management display a level of arrogance and ignorance I have literally never seen anywhere in sports.
I also hated the dirty divers that the Canucks used to be. But they never got rewarded for it in recognition or a cup. Instead they became universally despised, which was justice served. Now IMO they're quite average in terms of diving and dirty play, so I've pretty much started despising them.
I want us to beat them because they're a rival and for that reason I like the fact that they're getting worse. But that's really more about me wanting the Flames to do well. A bad Canucks team directly benefits us.
If I have to choose, I'd rather see cities with solid hockey fanbases win than some other cities. They know and love their hockey in Winnipeg, so as long as they don't get in our way, I don't mind them doing well.
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- Hellybuyck scares me. It'll be nice if he doesn't pan out.
Why? Does a solid goaltender suddenly push Winnipeg above Anaheim in difficulty? If yes, then maybe that's frustrating, but overall if they're below Anaheim and neither of us beat that team, it doesn't matter yet. Both teams are still growing.
Great goalies help, but aren't the only part the strengths of a team. I'm not afraid of the Montreal Carey Price. I'm not afraid of the Winnipeg Jets with Hellybuyck as I presume Ortio will rise at about the same time to nullify that improvement.
I see both teams rising about the same speed (which is fast in comparison to other franchises in our conference) but give the edge to Calgary due to homer vote as well as more game breaking ability of our roster players.
As for hating other teams, I don't often hate teams for their team. I hate their fans.
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Vanc - Hated their fans for the disgraceful riots. Hate the diving. I truly believe if Aaron Rome had not conked out Horton, Vancouver would have had a Stanley Cup. Nowadays, I'm not as bleh about them. I also met a few ok fans to hang out with on occasion, so it's fun to chirp them and make fun of them. Less hate, more bet winning.
Edmonton - Hate their fans. They literally come out of no where in Calgary and are rude. Chirping is one thing and fun, but FFS, if no one cares the 4th time you show up in a group of excited Flames fans to bellow out we're missing the 2015 playoffs... please. Go fly a kite. I would have sympathy for them, but their arrogance and seemingly lack of ability to have a rivalry in fun makes me hate their franchise.
Montreal - Cannot respect a team I have seen on occasion boo their own team for no reason other than sloppy play. That's disrespectful all across the board.
Toronto - See Montreal. I give them more slack as the team was bad for longer before the fans went nuts. At least they know they suck and don't start as much.
Winnipeg - I respect them because they respect the Franchise.
Ottawa - Same as the Peg
Honestly, I abhor the idea that one fan has to make themselves feel better by dragging another fan by really beating them down. I have chirped other fans and had the same done to me. I've lost plenty a bet and won a few as well. Everyone ends up leaving laughing together. THAT IMO is a great rivalry. Making someone feel like crap beyond the 24-48 hours of a game played, that's just low and I wouldn't want to affiliate myself with such people; even if they're flames fans.
