CBC article on 2016 SURVEY OF MUSLIMS IN CANADA

[taco.vidal]

CBC has a few articles today about a recent survey of young Muslim Canadians.

Read the articles and checkout the details of the survey.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/enviro...rvey-1.3551465

http://www.environicsinstitute.org/i...muslims-canada

[polak]

Among young respondents who said their citizenship and their faith were important parts of their identity, 61 per cent said being Muslim was the most important part of their identity and six per cent said being Canadian was the most important. Twenty-six per cent said both were important.

That's the key.

How many don't put their faith and nationality on the same level?

Also just cause they view themselves as Muslim first doesn't mean much... Canada is just a place....

[The Yen Man]

Yah, not sure why this is shocking? Wouldn't most people put their faith ahead of their citizenship?

[rubecube]

Is this really different than any other religion? Doesn't Christianity also emphasize Jesus/God before anything else, including your own family?

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Until I see a study that says Christians with similar levels of religious conviction consider themselves Canadians before Christian, I'll refrain from panicking.

[CroFlames]

I'm sure the numbers for Christianity would be the same or more. For Christians, God comes before king & country (heh).

[Coach]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Is this really different than any other religion? Doesn't Christianity also emphasize Jesus/God before anything else, including your own family?

Yes because... Muslim.

[FlamesAddiction]

I know a lot of Canadians that feel like they are "something else" before being Canadian.

Canadians, at least outside of Quebec, tend to have very low levels of nationalist awareness and there really isn't a "Canadian" ethnicity to speak of. Both of which I think are good things and part of what makes Canada great IMO.

[rubecube]

When people say Islamophobia doesn't exist, and then you see a thread like this.

[PsYcNeT]

Religious people value religion. Film at 11.

[Hack&Lube]

If you ask any religious person if they value a flag over their god of course you will get that answer. That's how it works.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Is this really different than any other religion? Doesn't Christianity also emphasize Jesus/God before anything else, including your own family?

In a way, only because the fellowship of believers is the true expression of universal egalitarianism.

However, Christianity also teaches believers to maintain distinct private and public loyalties, and for the most part, for them not to supersede the other.

[burn_this_city]

This is more important. Disenfranchisement and a lack of belonging is a larger issue in Europe.



The Environics survey, based on phone interviews with 600 Muslims across Canada, found that more than eight out of 10 Muslims are "very proud to be Canadian."

[polak]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

This is more important.

Yeah, belonging to ISIS!!!!!

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by peter12

In a way, only because the fellowship of believers is the true expression of universal egalitarianism.

However, Christianity also teaches believers to maintain distinct private and public loyalties, and for the most part, for them not to supersede the other.

What does that mean? Publicly you claim being Canadian is more important, but privately, God?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

What does that mean? Publicly you claim being Canadian is more important, but privately, God?

Politics and faith belong to distinct realms of experience and action.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Is this really different than any other religion? Doesn't Christianity also emphasize Jesus/God before anything else, including your own family?

Actually no. There's this whole thing about 'render unto Caesar", which means secular authorities take precedence in secular matters. There is nothing comparable in Islamic countries. The Koran explicitly says not to place any earthly power above the will of Allah.

Pew research has all kinds of data on the subject.

The upshot is that in many Muslim countries, more than 75 per cent of people support making Sharia the law of the land. In the U.S., which is the most devoutly Christian country in the West, that number is in the low single-digits.

I don't think Canada is in danger of becoming a state that follows Sharia law. That's just dumb. But it's also dumb to pretend all religions are the same. That sort of equivocation is polite, but it's also delusional. A Hindu in India who turns his back on Hinduism and denounces the tenets of his faith does not risk state-sanctioned murder at the hands of devout countrymen. The same is not true in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Even American Muslims who have publicly broken faith with Islam now need bodyguards day and night.

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by rubecube

When people say Islamophobia doesn't exist, and then you see a thread like this.

When you see a thread and Rubecube comes in with left wing buzzwords.

[evman150]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

What does that mean? Publicly you claim being Canadian is more important, but privately, God?

I think it's a reference to the plurality of sources of legitimate power, namely God and the earthly government. Matthew 22:21: "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's".

[Jeff Lebowski]

A related link to the op original link:

An overwhelming majority of Muslim Canadians have a strong attachment to their country and feel that Canada is heading in the right direction, according to a new survey.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/gren...nics-1.3551591