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Old 10-28-2011, 06:59 PM   #21
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A nuclear sub is also known as a nuke' I was reliably informed by a Conquerer's 2nd mate engineering H.M.N during a drunken attempt to fix a lister 3 cylinder diesel
Actually and not to nitpick, the term that is used by the American's is nuc.
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Old 10-28-2011, 07:09 PM   #22
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Actually and not to nitpick, the term that is used by the American's is nuc.
We were very drunk trying to get a narrow boat going after a heavy drinking session just outside of Coventry, he could have called it a bunny wunny and I wouldn't have questioned it.

Shortly after that I fell in the Canal
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Old 10-28-2011, 08:06 PM   #23
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That's worth persuing. At least we could keep it on topic
Back on topic: What are the latest developements in the competition between parties to establish Arctic boundaries?

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Old 10-28-2011, 08:06 PM   #24
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Count me in as someone that really likes the idea of Canada getting a few nuke SSN boats.
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Old 10-28-2011, 08:10 PM   #25
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Count me in as someone that really likes the idea of Canada getting a few nuke SSN boats.
What is an SSN boat?
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Old 10-28-2011, 08:21 PM   #26
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Fast Attack Submarine (nuclear).
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Old 10-28-2011, 08:24 PM   #27
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Fast Attack Submarine (nuclear).
We're talking all submarines, but what about ice breakers? Don't they play a big role too...as far as arctic sovereignty goes?

Anyways, I think its a crying shame how much money is wasted on the military because of corruption and greed, when the world is going bankrupt, and people are dying needlessly.

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Old 10-28-2011, 08:39 PM   #28
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I don't know why its so hard to understand the need for nuclear powered subs.

The subs we have now have cost over $1 billion just to repair. That money would have been better spent in purchasing new ones.

Beyond that, they give us a MUCH greater ability to control our interests everywhere in the world.
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Old 10-28-2011, 08:52 PM   #29
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Canada shouldn't just be thinking of nuclear submarines, they should be obtaining at least a dozen nuclear missiles.
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Old 10-28-2011, 08:56 PM   #30
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Canada shouldn't just be thinking of nuclear submarines, they should be obtaining at least a dozen nuclear missiles.

Ya Ya...Bio too!!!
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Old 10-28-2011, 08:56 PM   #31
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I don't know why its so hard to understand the need for nuclear powered subs.

The subs we have now have cost over $1 billion just to repair. That money would have been better spent in purchasing new ones.

Beyond that, they give us a MUCH greater ability to control our interests everywhere in the world.
Its a shame what happened to those boats. They really are a pretty good concept.

Most of the difficulty happened because they sat in storage for so long before we claimed them.

But diesel electric boats really aren't the best choice for a nation with an arctic coast line to monitor.

If we were ever to have purchased nuclear subs, it was back in the 80's when Mulrooney was in power and promised them and we were on the verge of mothballing the really terrible Oberon class boats.
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Old 10-28-2011, 08:57 PM   #32
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Canada shouldn't just be thinking of nuclear submarines, they should be obtaining at least a dozen nuclear missiles.
Why our stock pile up at alert is still perfectly fine
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Old 10-28-2011, 09:08 PM   #33
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Canada shouldn't just be thinking of nuclear submarines, they should be obtaining at least a dozen nuclear missiles.
We don't need nukes, the good ol' US of A has enough to go around.
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Old 10-28-2011, 09:21 PM   #34
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Canada shouldn't just be thinking of nuclear submarines, they should be obtaining at least a dozen nuclear missiles.
Should we all start hoarding more nukes?
Or just Canada?

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Old 10-28-2011, 10:00 PM   #35
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We don't need nukes, the good ol' US of A has enough to go around.
Probably true, but we would be so much more badass if we have like 2.
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:47 PM   #36
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Canada shouldn't just be thinking of nuclear submarines, they should be obtaining at least a dozen nuclear missiles.
Can't! We're signatories to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty as a Non-Nuclear state... so we can't get any.

Of course, NN states on that treaty include:

Pakistan
India
Israel
(North Korea until they withdrew in the early 2000s)
Iran

So, uhhhh...
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:10 AM   #37
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We have the knowledge, we have the uranium, and we have reactors. For the most part, we are a nuclear power even without having an actual bomb because we have the capacity to produce them if needs be.
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Old 10-29-2011, 12:07 PM   #38
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We have the knowledge, we have the uranium, and we have reactors. For the most part, we are a nuclear power even without having an actual bomb because we have the capacity to produce them if needs be.
I think the nuclear club could become a lot bigger almost overnight if a major global conflict erupted. Of course, countries like Canada, Japan, Austrailia, South Africa (built them in the past) and most of Europe have the immediate capablities. I believe at one time, both Brazil and Argentina had advanced nuclear programs that they "volunteered" to stop due to diplomatic pressure. And then of course, some supposed "non-nuclear" states like Turkey, Italy, Netherlands and Poland have them on their soil courtesy of NATO. I also don't buy it for a second that Belarus and Kazahkstan transferred all of theirs back to Russia. Ukraine had more than 5,000 and have claimed to have dismantled them ore sent them to Russia, but I have my doubts... no evidence mind you, I just don't see why they wouldn't keep a few.
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Why our stock pile up at alert is still perfectly fine
Please elaborate. Are you saying we already have them?
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Old 10-29-2011, 12:48 PM   #40
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We're talking all submarines, but what about ice breakers? Don't they play a big role too...as far as arctic sovereignty goes?

Anyways, I think its a crying shame how much money is wasted on the military because of corruption and greed, when the world is going bankrupt, and people are dying needlessly.
What does a sentence like this even mean?
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