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Old 05-15-2017, 09:47 AM   #381
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Upgrading PSU / video card on HP Elite computers

It appears that the motherboard and PSU on the HP Elite computers are proprietary and they do not use a standard ATX power supply. In order to upgrade to any video card that needs external power, the PSU would need to be upgraded, correct?

Does anyone have any recommendations/experience with this?

I've found two options:Are there other options that people know about?
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:05 AM   #382
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That Quadro graphics card is really really meh, though. The Dell XPS can come with a GTX 1050 which is 3-4x more powerful than the Quadro M520 Mobile and will have way more longevity. There are no upgrade options for the Thinkpad you linked.
I've never really thought upgrading a graphics card was worth the effort. Have things changed? I've also believed that unless there was a noticeable difference for <$200, no point in overpaying for mobile graphics.
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:18 AM   #383
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Upgrading PSU / video card on HP Elite computers

It appears that the motherboard and PSU on the HP Elite computers are proprietary and they do not use a standard ATX power supply. In order to upgrade to any video card that needs external power, the PSU would need to be upgraded, correct?

Does anyone have any recommendations/experience with this?

I've found two options:Are there other options that people know about?
I have several HP desktops at work. We tried replacing the graphics card on one where the fan was going, Desktop wouldn't play nice at all so we had to Macguyver a NVidia GPU fan to the ATI card. I don't know if upgrading the PSU would work, because I never went that far.

If my company needs to upgrade desktops at work, I'd suggest we pay Memex's fee to build desktops with no BS upgrade restrictions or paying someone who has built computers a small fee to spec a few desktops.

If you already have the HP elite, selling it and taking the money to put into a new desktop might be a more worth while endeavor than changing parts and hoping it works. Just my opinion.
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:42 AM   #384
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I've never really thought upgrading a graphics card was worth the effort. Have things changed? I've also believed that unless there was a noticeable difference for <$200, no point in overpaying for mobile graphics.
Only problem with this argument is that once you buy it, you're stuck with it. There's no upgrading the video card on laptops.

Did I know in 2010 when I bought my wife a laptop that her lowly graphic card would be the only thing that holds back her laptop? Nope. She has to play games on the lowest possible settings and 720p60 videos such as Youtube or steaming sites are a choppy mess.

There are no M versions of video cards in the current generation of GeForce 10XX cards. They generate a lot less heat than the 9XX series of graphics cards and their power draw is smaller. This is the perfect time to spend a little more to get a LOT more out of your laptop, especially in terms of longevity.

The next laptop I get for my wife will have a 1050Ti or 1060 in it for sure. They're expensive right now, but have been steadily going down in price.
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Only problem with this argument is that once you buy it, you're stuck with it. There's no upgrading the video card on laptops.

Did I know in 2010 when I bought my wife a laptop that her lowly graphic card would be the only thing that holds back her laptop? Nope. She has to play games on the lowest possible settings and 720p60 videos such as Youtube or steaming sites are a choppy mess.

There are no M versions of video cards in the current generation of GeForce 10XX cards. They generate a lot less heat than the 9XX series of graphics cards and their power draw is smaller. This is the perfect time to spend a little more to get a LOT more out of your laptop, especially in terms of longevity.

The next laptop I get for my wife will have a 1050Ti or 1060 in it for sure. They're expensive right now, but have been steadily going down in price.
There's laptops from 2010 with integrated cards that perform that poorly? Damn, fair enough.

I've been making sure my laptops have a decent dedicated card since the C2D days and have avoid integrated at all costs. I didn't realize the cards in the newer/recent laptops are so much more future proof. I'll definitely keep it in mind when I contemplate laptops in the future. But agreed, that having a minimum level of dedicated graphics has been a norm for me for a long time (around the P4 era). I just never bothered with a "better card upgrade" if two laptops were super similar. By the time the better card shone vs the crappier card, it was time for a new laptop.

I do generally tell people not to buy laptops with integrated cards.
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Old 05-15-2017, 12:11 PM   #386
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There's laptops from 2010 with integrated cards that perform that poorly? Damn, fair enough.

I've been making sure my laptops have a decent dedicated card since the C2D days and have avoid integrated at all costs. I didn't realize the cards in the newer/recent laptops are so much more future proof. I'll definitely keep it in mind when I contemplate laptops in the future. But agreed, that having a minimum level of dedicated graphics has been a norm for me for a long time (around the P4 era). I just never bothered with a "better card upgrade" if two laptops were super similar. By the time the better card shone vs the crappier card, it was time for a new laptop.

I do generally tell people not to buy laptops with integrated cards.
I'm definitely aware of integrated (ie. part of the CPU) versus dedicated cards. I was referring to a dedicated video card soldered to the motherboard, so it cannot be swapped. This is a trend that has been happening for some time, as it allows them to make the laptop smaller.

My wife's current laptop has a dedicated GeForce GT 435M card, but has a i7 quad 2.3 GHz processor which still runs pretty good. It just sucks that the graphics card now holds the rest of it back, because it's actually a nice laptop with some features that are hard to find today, like nice speakers that point up!

Upgrading the RAM a couple years ago from 4 GB to 8 GB gave it some extra life, and I pondered swapping the HDD with a SSD, but at this point, I can't get much more out of it.

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Only problem with this argument is that once you buy it, you're stuck with it. There's no upgrading the video card on laptops.

Did I know in 2010 when I bought my wife a laptop that her lowly graphic card would be the only thing that holds back her laptop? Nope. She has to play games on the lowest possible settings and 720p60 videos such as Youtube or steaming sites are a choppy mess.

There are no M versions of video cards in the current generation of GeForce 10XX cards. They generate a lot less heat than the 9XX series of graphics cards and their power draw is smaller. This is the perfect time to spend a little more to get a LOT more out of your laptop, especially in terms of longevity.

The next laptop I get for my wife will have a 1050Ti or 1060 in it for sure. They're expensive right now, but have been steadily going down in price.
Eh let me know what you pick up for her, I'll probably just buy the same haha.
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