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Old 11-21-2014, 01:52 PM   #21
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For sure. But in general, being overweight is highly correlated to snoring more so I don't think that poster deserved to be reprimanded for saying so.
Sure, except he basically just called the poster, someone I presume he doesnt know and has never met, fat.

For someone who is intimately aware of the importance of treating people, all people, with dignity and respect he's sort of made a mockery of his typical stance with that one.
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Old 11-21-2014, 02:07 PM   #22
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Sure, except he basically just called the poster, someone I presume he doesnt know and has never met, fat.

For someone who is intimately aware of the importance of treating people, all people, with dignity and respect he's sort of made a mockery of his typical stance with that one.
Yep. Just PsYc being PsYc.

And he is not right. Obstructive sleep apnea is an airway issue, not a weight issue. Sure, obese people are likely to have more extra tissue around their airway, but there are thin people who have severe OSA (as one poster has admitted in this thread).

Losing 20 lbs may or may not help out with OSA. The disease is patient dependent. Some unlucky people will have OSA no matter their weight

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Old 11-21-2014, 03:23 PM   #23
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Yep. Just PsYc being PsYc.

And he is not right. Obstructive sleep apnea is an airway issue, not a weight issue. Sure, obese people are likely to have more extra tissue around their airway, but there are thin people who have severe OSA (as one poster has admitted in this thread).

Losing 20 lbs may or may not help out with OSA. The disease is patient dependent. Some unlucky people will have OSA no matter their weight
One of the first things doctors do after someone is diagnosed with apnea or they are complaining about snoring is assess their weight. For sure it's not causation (ie. skinny people can have the problems as you point out) but there is a high correlation.
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Old 11-23-2014, 11:01 AM   #24
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Yep. Just PsYc being PsYc.

And he is not right. Obstructive sleep apnea is an airway issue, not a weight issue. Sure, obese people are likely to have more extra tissue around their airway, but there are thin people who have severe OSA (as one poster has admitted in this thread).

Losing 20 lbs may or may not help out with OSA. The disease is patient dependent. Some unlucky people will have OSA no matter their weight
^Exactly - I have sleep apnea, but "normal"/recommended weight for my height.
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This thread reminds me I have to go back to sleep clinic.

On sleep study: take home device to test for apnea - I'm a healthcare professional, but I think their reliability is limited. First time I took one hope, I slept less than 90 minutes (probably less than 60 minutes) and the device detected that I slept over 5 hours!
The second time, an "older" device did detect the apnea and I was actually able to sleep with it.
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I have the Somnomed dental appliance - there seemed to be a honeymoon phase where it worked beautifully at the lower positions (it can be gradually adjusted to move jaw more and more forward as needed up to a certain point).
I'm now at the initial max that doc recommended and back to snoring like a lumberjack sawing wood again.
I also have nocturnal nasal congestion issues which I think play a huge role and have tried a bunch of things to help with this to no real avail (sinus rinses at bedtime probably work best).
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Old 11-23-2014, 05:51 PM   #25
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Nose strips reduce my snoring - my wife gives me crap if I forget to put one on.

I went for a test anyway and have apnea. Now I need to choose between CPAP and a dental device. I know CPAP is pretty much a guaranteed solution but I'm having trouble imagining how I can wear it without the hose getting in the way as I toss and turn, let alone the affect on intimacy, so I'm leaning towards the dental device.
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Old 11-23-2014, 07:33 PM   #26
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I had the same reservations as you; however, will get used to it.

I put my machine on my side table, and for the most part I sleep facing that way. I do roll over and you just deal with the tube. Chances are when you are really restless you pull off the mask.

As for intimacy, TCB, snuggle, then roll over and put on mask.......
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You might also find that you toss and turn less if you are breathing properly.
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Old 11-23-2014, 10:01 PM   #28
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Getting used to my CPAP machine was ridiculously easy. It took one night. As for the intimacy it's a PITA, however.
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Old 11-24-2014, 12:53 PM   #29
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Those mouth guard things are garbage.

The dental appliances work good but they are expensive and they are hard on your teeth, they need to fit perfectly.

You may need to bite the bullet and go with CPAP, it really is the best solution in most cases.
CPAP is definitely the way to go.
But my sleep doctor did say the $100 mouth guards from TV will work for the very short term.
For my sleep apnea he said it's a good way to get a decent night's sleep while camping or on holiday. For extended vacations I do pack the CPAP, though.
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Just sat through a presentation from this guy,
http://www.px3foundation.org/brad-layzell.html

for the purpose of sleep deprivation. They have an outlet at Winsport, the cost is about $500.
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Old 11-26-2014, 12:13 PM   #31
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Intimacy?
Are you guys having sex in your sleep?
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