05-30-2016, 03:46 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Expansion decision expected by June 22
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Bettman says he is "fairly certain" he'll have more definitive word on expansion at the June 22 B of G meeting in Las Vegas. Four options.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Options: 1. No expansion; 2. Expansion but deferred to later date; 3. Expansion by 1 team; 4. expansion by 2 teams.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Executive committee will make its expansion recommendation to B of G "at least a week before" the June 22 board meeting in Vegas.
Chris Johnston @reporterchris
NHL expansion could be deferred to 2018-19, per Bill Daly. There's still a chance for 2017-18, though.
I would think that if there is no official decision until June 22, deferred expansion is the more likely option.
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05-30-2016, 03:56 PM
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#2
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Franchise Player
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There either going to have expansion 2017 season or 2018. The way i look at it as a flames fan, i would rahter sooner so flames can get a goalie on trade market on the cheaper side.
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05-30-2016, 04:09 PM
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Franchise Player
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@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Daly says the original idea to include a minimum salary cap threshold being exposed in expansion draft has since been dropped.
@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Difference between no-trade and no-movement clauses, clearly, in expansion draft. Daly says players with just NTC can be exposed
@Real_ESPNLeBrun
And while Daly wouldn't say, presuming therefore that players with full no-moves can't be exposed. Looks like they'll be immune to exp draft
@frank_seravalli
Daly also said NHL has waived a minimum/maximum payroll threshold for teams to meet in a possible expansion draft.
@Real_ESPNLeBrun
My guess is there are layers/variances to the NMC/NTC component of expansion draft so still some unknowns
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05-30-2016, 04:16 PM
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First Line Centre
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I think there should be a maximum salary cap threshold which a team can protect, that will make some interesting players being available.
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05-30-2016, 04:16 PM
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#5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Finger Cookin
@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Daly says the original idea to include a minimum salary cap threshold being exposed in expansion draft has since been dropped.
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That minimum salary idea was the only thing i could think of to keep Stajan on the flamse next season. Now Stajan has no use.
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05-30-2016, 04:26 PM
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Franchise Player
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I think they need to put every NHLer's name on a big wheel and the expansion team can spin it. Granted, an exceptionally large wheel would be called for, but sometimes you just need a huge wheel. They solve many issues.
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05-30-2016, 04:37 PM
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#7
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Chris Johnston @reporterchris
Some teams might not be able to comply with NHL expansion draft rules. The penalty if that happens is "significant" -- picks and/or players.
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05-30-2016, 04:41 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Hope it's not put off, I'd rather get it over with
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05-30-2016, 04:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Chris Johnston @reporterchris
Some teams might not be able to comply with NHL expansion draft rules. The penalty if that happens is "significant" -- picks and/or players.
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Which rules? Which teams?
Anyone know?
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05-30-2016, 05:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Which rules? Which teams?
Anyone know?
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As long as they have a year to comply with the rules then that's fair. If some teams are already, unavoidably breaking the rules then that seems quite unfair.
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05-30-2016, 05:26 PM
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Franchise Player
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Do teams make their protected list open to the public?
Could be a bit of a morale issue if players are made aware their team was willing to risk lose them.
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05-30-2016, 05:59 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
Do teams make their protected list open to the public?
Could be a bit of a morale issue if players are made aware their team was willing to risk lose them.
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Yes, the protected lists have always been made public.
I doubt it will cause many hurt feelings. I'd bet we could all guess at least 90% of the players who will be protected league-wide, and I'm sure the players could too.
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05-30-2016, 07:17 PM
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A Fiddler Crab
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago
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NMC's by team
It looks like the teams hampered the most by having to protect NMC's will be Columbus and New York Rangers. Chicago and Pittsburgh both have to protect a lot of players, but those guys were getting protected anyway.
This leads me to think: is there a possibility Columbus packages one of those NMC's with pick number 3 to trade down this summer?
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05-30-2016, 07:30 PM
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NOT breaking news
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
I think they need to put every NHLer's name on a big wheel and the expansion team can spin it. Granted, an exceptionally large wheel would be called for, but sometimes you just need a huge wheel. They solve many issues.
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Or FIFA balls
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05-30-2016, 08:13 PM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by driveway
NMC's by team
It looks like the teams hampered the most by having to protect NMC's will be Columbus and New York Rangers. Chicago and Pittsburgh both have to protect a lot of players, but those guys were getting protected anyway.
This leads me to think: is there a possibility Columbus packages one of those NMC's with pick number 3 to trade down this summer? |
Has there been any further mention regarding expiring NMC's? Are we in the clear with Wideman? I want to know whether I can be really happy or if I have to kick a puppy.
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05-30-2016, 08:16 PM
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Franchise Player
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Vegas is getting a team in 17/18 book it. Murray Craven will be the PHO and Scott Mellanby the GM.
Last edited by Vinny01; 05-30-2016 at 08:18 PM.
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05-30-2016, 08:21 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Finger Cookin
@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Difference between no-trade and no-movement clauses, clearly, in expansion draft. Daly says players with just NTC can be exposed
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Does anyone else think the NHLPA might take a bit of a issue with this?
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05-30-2016, 08:21 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by driveway
NMC's by team
It looks like the teams hampered the most by having to protect NMC's will be Columbus and New York Rangers. Chicago and Pittsburgh both have to protect a lot of players, but those guys were getting protected anyway.
This leads me to think: is there a possibility Columbus packages one of those NMC's with pick number 3 to trade down this summer? |
I'll feel really bad for Columbus if they're forced to protect David Clarkson. Yikes.
I'll laugh at Toronto and Horton though.
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05-30-2016, 08:24 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan02
Does anyone else think the NHLPA might take a bit of a issue with this?
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They can have an issue all they want. NTC mean no trade, not no claim by an expansion team. They have no grounds to fight that IMO.
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05-30-2016, 08:28 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan02
Does anyone else think the NHLPA might take a bit of a issue with this?
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They already settled the issue with PA weeks ago.
I think what LeBrun may be referring to in his NMC/NTC clause is that a player needs a full NMC to be protected. If they have a NMC but can name certain teams they can/won't be traded to perhaps they don't need to be protected.
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