[Signing] Minor 2014 Off-season signings

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Superfraggle

Again, they couldn't. It's not terrible management to not violate the rules.

"All non-North Americans MUST be drafted before they can sign an NHL contract, despite their age."

http://bluejackets.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=675546

Unless I'm reading it wrong that can't be right. Guys like Cervenka, Hiller etc the big Euro UFAs were never drafted and signed.

[Superfraggle]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Unless I'm reading it wrong that can't be right. Guys like Cervenka, Hiller etc the big Euro UFAs were never drafted and signed.

That surprised me too, but I found it in a couple places and figured the Blue Jackets' official website would have it right. Maybe it's new?

Regardless, the point is that you can't just sign players who are eligible to be drafted and it's ridiculous of Neo to suggest management wouldn't have thought of it for this guy if they could.

[Superfraggle]

Originally Posted by CBA

8.9 Eligibility for Play in the League. No Player shall be eligible for play in the League
unless he:
(a) had been claimed in the last Entry Draft, or was ineligible for claim under Section
8.4; or
(b) had been eligible for claim in the last Entry Draft, but was unclaimed, and:
(i) had played hockey in North America the prior season and was age 20 or
older at the time of the last Entry Draft, and signed an SPC which was
signed and registered with the League between the conclusion of the Entry
Draft and commencement of the next NHL Season.
(ii) had played hockey in North America the prior season and was under age
20 at the time of the last Entry Draft, and signed an SPC which was signed
and registered with the League between the conclusion of the Entry Draft
and commencement of the Major Juniors season (except that if such
Player had signed an NHL try-out form, which was signed and registered
with the League during the aforesaid time period, then the deadline for
signing and registering with the League an SPC with such try-out Club
shall be the commencement of the NHL Season).
(iii) had played hockey outside of North America in the prior season and was
age 22 or older at the time of the last Entry Draft and signed an SPC which
was signed and registered with the League between the conclusion of the
Entry Draft and the commencement of the next NHL Season.
(iv) The words "eligible for claim in the last Entry Draft" in subparagraph (b)
above mean "eligible for claim in all rounds of the last Entry Draft." The
words "the prior season" in subparagraph (i), (ii) and (iii) above mean "a
full season prior to the last Entry Draft."

Direct from the CBA. He was not 20 or older

[savemedrzaius]

Originally Posted by Monahan23

Mason > Reimer

Holtby > Reimer

Enroth = Reimer

I've watched him for years in Toronto. He's a crap starter and one of the most inconsistent goalies in the NHL

This is SOOOO true! When I think consistency, I think Mason and Holtby.

Seriously, probably the two most inconsistent goalies in the league. Don't know how you can say they are better than Reimer.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

Same as Scrivens. If anything, he would have gotten more in arbitration.

2.3 is less than Ramo.

5.5 million combined for Bernier/Reimer is a steal.

Ramo was overpaid. I like him, but yes, we had to pay a premium for him. He was one of the top goalies in the KHL and we had to pay to make it worth his while. It has no bearing on Reimer's value though. And of course Scrivens is overpaid as well. In reality, all three are probably about the same value-wise.

I'm not saying it is a terrible contract by any means. Just a slight overpayment IMO.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Monahan23

Mason > Reimer

Holtby > Reimer

Enroth = Reimer

I've watched him for years in Toronto. He's a crap starter and one of the most inconsistent goalies in the NHL

And yet you pick Steve Mason over him.

Reimer has put up better numbers than all of those guys in a tougher situation.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

And yet you pick Steve Mason over him.

Reimer has put up better numbers than all of those guys in a tougher situation.

Just ask yourself these questions. If Reimer was such a good goalie why were the Leafs trying to trade for Luongo? When that didn't happen, they went and got a younger goalie then Reimer in Bernier and made him the starter.

Not to mention, how long has he been on the block now? If he was that coveted then some team would've traded for him, you know how the Leafs traded for Bernier. Tampa traded for Lindback and then Bishop. Edmonton traded for Fasth and Scrivens. Colorado traded for Varlamov. Columbus traded for Bobrovsky. NJ with Schneider. Pretty much all these guys were in the same boat as Reimer not long ago and they have new homes and Reimer doesn't, not yet at least.

Your rants about his save percentage, Leafs were allowing a ton of shots last year so theoretically his save percentage will be high as a shot through wouldn'teaffect the sv% when you face 50 shots. Yet both Beriner and Mcintyre easily had better save % then Reimer.

I like Reimer the player, but he's a backup goalie anyone trying to sell him as better then that is only fooling themselves. Good Day!

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Just ask yourself these questions. If Reimer was such a good goalie why were the Leafs trying to trade for Luongo? When that didn't happen, they went and got a younger goalie then Reimer in Bernier and made him the starter.

Not to mention, how long has he been on the block now? If he was that coveted then some team would've traded for him, you know how the Leafs traded for Bernier. Tampa traded for Lindback and then Bishop. Edmonton traded for Fasth and Scrivens. Colorado traded for Varlamov. Columbus traded for Bobrovsky. NJ with Schneider. Pretty much all these guys were in the same boat as Reimer not long ago and they have new homes and Reimer doesn't, not yet at least.

Your rants about his save percentage, Leafs were allowing a ton of shots last year so theoretically his save percentage will be high as a shot through wouldn'teaffect the sv% when you face 50 shots. Yet both Beriner and Mcintyre easily had better save % then Reimer.

I like Reimer the player, but he's a backup goalie anyone trying to sell him as better then that is only fooling themselves. Good Day!

LOL.That's ridiculous. You really think if goalies are getting the most shots it helps their numbers? If your goalie stinks, he'll get killed and end up with a sub .900 save% and on the bench.

And I'm not going to judge a player's value on supposed trade rumours.

Steve Mason has had a half good season in the last 5 years, but he's better than Reimer?

[The Original FFIV]

Derek Smith signs with Zurich per Scott Cruickshsnk's retweet

[Monahan23]

Hockey Central ‏@SNHockeyCentral 2m
Columbus Blue Jackets re-sign forward Dana Tyrell to a one-year, two way contract.

[MissTeeks]

Toronto Maple Leafs‏@MapleLeafs10 mins

@SportChek Player Alert: #Leafs sign forward Daniel Winnik: http://bit.ly/1uA5IKK

[bubbsy]

decent signing for the leafs, but damn they have a lot of forwards under contract all of a sudden...

jvr - bozak - kessel
lupul - kadri - clarkson
booth - holland - frattin
kamarov - santorelli - winnick
orr, kontiola, bodie, carter

Not sure what the waiver exempt guys are on that list, but that's a lot of bodies.

oh and wtih regards to reimer, he's a very good back up goalie in the NHL. His rebound control, and mental fortitude just isn't up to par. Teams don't tend to trade valued assets for average goaltenders (ie. goaltenders that are questionable starters at the NHL level).

[BigTuna]

The Leafs bottom 6 looks terrific.

BTW, the rebound control knock on Reimer is way overblown. He's a quality goalie and yes, could be a starter in the right situation.

[bubbsy]

terrific? the leafs issue at forward were sub-standard defensive play and lack of offensive scoring depth.

not sure if they have "terrificly" solved either of those. though, plenty of competition come camp which could be good.

also, in my opinion, reimer's rebound control is not overblown, it is a reason most teams aren't lining up to get him when he was obviously on the market all summer.

my opinion on the leafs' offseason is that they changed the top dog in the food chain by bringing in shanahan but then leave the GM and head coach (who both played out last year terribly) and remove the assistant GM and coaches. if things don't start well then the TO media vultures will chew the situation up in no time. though i think shanahan already has his plan Bs ready for both GM and coaching positions should that happen, but it would be a bad year if he has to play those hands.