[Trade] Elias Lindholm to VAN for Kuzmenko, Brzustewicz, Jurmo, 2024 1st, cond 2024 4th

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Sharangovich looked fine as 4th line C earlier this year, no issues with giving him or Zary a look at C.

In terms of a nickname for Brzustewicz...I vote for Hunter the Hungry (And Connor Zary should be Connor4Real)

Hunter or Bruschetta sounds good to me. The latter goes well with eating bread.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Lol. Yes, because there's clearly empirical evidence that shows that that is absolutely a required necessity.

As of now, the Flames are empirically smaller and tilted way to the left!

[d_phaneuf]

Dhaliwal, who is maybe 1 of 2 canuck reporters with actual sources

Says tanev was removed from a deal when flames wanted a 1st, not sure if that was on its own or as part of the bigger lindholm deal

Also says they will be suiters july 1 regardless of if they can swing a trade for him, which they will still try and do

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Future D pairing Buzz-Kylington??

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[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by CSharp

As of now, the Flames are empirically smaller and tilted way to the left!

We’re supposed to express our support publicly for leaning in the same direction.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Dhaliwal, who is maybe 1 of 2 canuck reporters with actual sources

Says tanev was removed from a deal when flames wanted a 1st, not sure if that was on its own or as part of the bigger lindholm deal

Also says they will be suiters july 1 regardless of if they can swing a trade for him, which they will still try and do

I'd happily take Vancouver's 2025 1st.

I love the potential reward on future 1st rounders. No idea what happens in 2025, especially if Pettersson doesn't re-sign.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by CSharp

As of now, the Flames are empirically smaller and tilted way to the left!

Are bigger and tilted way to the right teams better?

Are normal sized teams and tilted zero ways better?

Slightly more than 3/5 of players are LH. Would you take a 40 RH prospect over a 45 LH prospect?

I'm open to the argument; I'd like to see what you have to offer.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Dhaliwal, who is maybe 1 of 2 canuck reporters with actual sources

Says tanev was removed from a deal when flames wanted a 1st, not sure if that was on its own or as part of the bigger lindholm deal

Also says they will be suiters july 1 regardless of if they can swing a trade for him, which they will still try and do

Let's see if TO, Devils, Sens, and others have to say about that. I'm prety sure this trade and the Tanev speculations will likely put pressures on the interested GM's. It's about time the Flames have valuable assets in their older players that they can trade away right now for a brighter future.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

We’re supposed to express our support publicly for leaning in the same direction.

The MAGA forum is over in the off-topic.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by butterfly

The MAGA forum is over in the off-topic.

What does anything I said have to do with MAGA?

[Jacks]

Turn off the PC for a few hours and all hell breaks loose.
Haven't really had a chance to digest it fully but looks pretty damn good at first glance. Good work Conroy.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Turn off the PC for a few hours and all hell breaks loose.
Haven't really had a chance to digest it fully but looks pretty damn good at first glance. Good work Conroy.

Was literally me too.

The trial talk was depressing and we were heading into the ASB. Decided I might take a break from the forum for a bit. Was having a nice quiet evening focusing on other things..

So much for that.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I'd happily take Vancouver's 2025 1st.

I love the potential reward on future 1st rounders. No idea what happens in 2025, especially if Pettersson doesn't re-sign.

Ya I'm guessing that's why it didnt get beyond that, the 2024 1st is cost controlled somewhat, and a top 6 forward was a bigger need right now

[flylock shox]

Good trade for both sides really.



Vancouver - by some miracle - have a shot this season, and they should take it. Nothing they're giving up was going to help them make the most of their chance, but Lindholm will and I would think there's a very good chance he'd re-sign there if they want to keep him and work out the cap space.



For Calgary, it's the perfect blend of picks and prospects, and the one roster player coming back isn't a pure cap dump either, and may be able to contribute to making the rest of the NHL season interesting for the Flames. After all, we have to watch somebody play out the rest of the games.



Listening to a recount of the two D prospects coming back, it sounded to me that both are basically young and need to work on their strength/power - which I would think for kids their age is the easiest thing to gain. The kid in the OHL in particular - who I'm going to call "Chilly" until there's a better nickname for him - looks like just the kind of big swing acquisition the Flames need to be making at this stage.



On the whole, better than I would have expected for Lindholm, but not a bad deal for Vancouver either unless they flame out in round 1. Which would be fine

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Are bigger and tilted way to the right teams better?

Are normal sized teams and tilted zero ways better?

Slightly more than 3/5 of players are LH. Would you take a 40 RH prospect over a 45 LH prospect?

I'm open to the argument; I'd like to see what you have to offer.

Championship teams are built big and evenly spread through their lineups. The large sample size should point to that. It's kind of odd that the NHL has more and more left shot players when they're normally right handed. Regardless of that, I'd like the Flames to get a couple of decent big right shot centers. And yes, I'm a bit biased on the righty because the team is hanging to far to the left!

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

My only critique on Conroy's body of work as GM is not getting more immediate picks in the Zadorov trade.

Aside from that, he's done some excellent work for a newbie.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by CSharp

Championship teams are built big and evenly spread through their lineups. The large sample size should point to that. It's kind of odd that the NHL has more and more left shot players when they're normally right handed. Regardless of that, I'd like the Flames to get a couple of decent big right shot centers. And yes, I'm a bit biased on the righty because the team is hanging to far to the left!

Sounds like total platitudes to me. How are Stanley Cup Finalists who lose built? How are Conference Finalists who lose built? How are 2nd round teams who lose built? How are lottery teams built?

If you can prove that there is any meaningful difference, then maybe you have a point that we can learn from. I'd like to see the evidence.

[Caged Great]

I’ve maintained for years that you need at least 20 high quality prospects in your organization in order to successfully rebuild.

Honzek, Morin, Suniev, Wolf, Poirier, Pelletier, Coronato, Zary, and now Hunter are on that list. Still have a long way to go, with only 9 names on the list.

Having two firsts and a second will help. Perhaps the two thirds also.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by CSharp

Championship teams are built big and evenly spread through their lineups. The large sample size should point to that. It's kind of odd that the NHL has more and more left shot players when they're normally right handed. Regardless of that, I'd like the Flames to get a couple of decent big right shot centers. And yes, I'm a bit biased on the righty because the team is hanging to far to the left!

Most right handed people shoot left in hockey. Better Puck control that way. If you didn't know that, you should maybe not share your opinion as fact.

[GreenLantern2814]

Huberdeau-Kadri-Sharangovich
Kuzmenko-Weegar

That’s a powerplay that could score some fun goals.