I’d suggest you don’t know anything about pipelines if your comment is a few tiny holes in shallow water is a tiny repair.
I'm not saying it will be a tiny repair, I'm saying it will be a fairly expensive but straight forward repair that Germany will pay for and will be expedited in a few weeks to months at most, I am also saying that the actual explosion has done no harm to Russian gas exports as the pipeline was already shut down (in the case of the newer pipe it hadnt even been used) and that Russia has a nice big pipeline that runs through Belarus and Poland and another that runs through the Caucuses that can both be used to supply gas to the EU, assuming it didnt want to use the pipes running through the Ukraine that to the best of my knowledge are still pumping gas.
Because of all of the above it would make the US doing something so provocative and aggressive, an act that if caught would destroy the fragile coalition they have created in the EU and turn Europe against them immediately, blowing up pipes that are not even being used and are easy to repair would be an insane risk to their current policy while having no practical effect on anything, bear in mind we are talking about the US, a country that has refused to put the full court press on Germany to provide tanks, has refused to provide Ukraine with much of the kit it wants, this country is going to risk all of this to commit an act of war within Danish and Swedish economic zone of the Baltic Sea?
It is a utterly daft idea when you think about
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I'm not saying it will be a tiny repair, I'm saying it will be a fairly expensive but straight forward repair that Germany will pay for and will be expedited in a few weeks to months at most, I am also saying that the actual explosion has done no harm to Russian gas exports as the pipeline was already shut down (in the case of the newer pipe it hadnt even been used) and that Russia has a nice big pipeline that runs through Belarus and Poland and another that runs through the Caucuses that can both be used to supply gas to the EU, assuming it didnt want to use the pipes running through the Ukraine that to the best of my knowledge are still pumping gas.
Because of all of the above it would make the US doing something so provocative and aggressive, an act that if caught would destroy the fragile coalition they have created in the EU and turn Europe against them immediately, blowing up pipes that are not even being used and are easy to repair would be an insane risk to their current policy while having no practical effect on anything, bear in mind we are talking about the US, a country that has refused to put the full court press on Germany to provide tanks, has refused to provide Ukraine with much of the kit it wants, this country is going to risk all of this to commit an act of war within Danish and Swedish economic zone of the Baltic Sea?
It is a utterly daft idea when you think about
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replacing a few hundred feet of a pipe in shallow water is a tiny repair
I get your general point though, but once oxygenated sea water gets in this thing the long term corrosion affects are a nightmare.
Wow, maybe we need a separate debate thread on the nord stream pipe vandalism? Personally really finding this topic tiresome as it clutters a very important issue that is effecting lives iin a real way every day.
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That would be my bet as well, if it was not Russia. They were adamant that Nord Stream should not go ahead and hated that pipeline. I don't think anything like that doesn't go through without American approval though.
If it wasn't Russia, it will probably be classified information for our life times.
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Wow, maybe we need a separate debate thread on the nord stream pipe vandalism? Personally really finding this topic tiresome as it clutters a very important issue that is effecting lives iin a real way every day.
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Wow, maybe we need a separate debate thread on the nord stream pipe vandalism? Personally really finding this topic tiresome as it clutters a very important issue that is effecting lives iin a real way every day.
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Those vehicles belonged to one of the elite Russian units, the 155th naval infantry. The unit was originally part of the Kyiv offensive, were recently reformed with volunteers and fresh equipment only to be obliterated again in Vuhledar.
Speculation is they ran over artillery shell placed mines between the lines of contact.
Those vehicles belonged to one of the elite Russian units, the 155th naval infantry. The unit was originally part of the Kyiv offensive, were recently reformed with volunteers and fresh equipment only to be obliterated again in Vuhledar.
Speculation is they ran over artillery shell placed mines between the lines of contact.
That's astonishing. They must have realized they were in a mine field, after the second tank struck a mine. Yet, they continue to drive through it....and then the soldiers all run off in random directions.
That's astonishing. They must have realized they were in a mine field, after the second tank struck a mine. Yet, they continue to drive through it....and then the soldiers all run off in random directions.
I can't imagine the fear. You're in a minefield and you know you're likely being watched on camera.. if you stick around you're probably going to get hit by artillery. Pretty brutal
