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Old 12-09-2016, 09:34 AM   #241
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Garnet Hathaway is a beauty. If you haven't listened to his interview after the game, it's on the Flames app.

You can tell he is an intelligent kid and knows his role. Love watching him play.
I love this kid. He was killing Domi in the fight and he stops, looks at the refs and seems to say "Are you going to stop this? I'm going to kill this guy"
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Old 12-09-2016, 09:43 AM   #242
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Jeff Marek on NHL Network this morning kept calling him Garrett and then inferred that Domi beat him up.

Rage....
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Old 12-09-2016, 09:47 AM   #243
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".500" refers to points%, not win%, because at the end of the season the only thing that matters is points%. The standings are ultimately ordered by points%. Win% is completely irrelevant when it comes to the standings.

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Wins/(games played) is the important 0.500 for the NHL point structure
Completely wrong.

Ex: Two teams battling for the final playoff spot have records of 40-26-16 (.488 win%) and 42-29-11 (.512 win%). The team with the lower win% makes the playoffs. Win% is irrelevant.
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Old 12-09-2016, 09:58 AM   #244
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Jeff Marek on NHL Network this morning kept calling him Garrett and then inferred that Domi beat him up.

Rage....
It's official. Marek = No Good
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I don't know why people are hung up about how to measure ".500". It is pretty clearly a reflection of points accumulated in games—that is all. So long as we recognise that historically speaking a playoff berth more than likely will require a points percentage of .580 or better, there is no problem.
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So typical for Flames fans...

The team wins its 5th in a row and is 10-3-1 in its last 14, and now has as many points as any team in the division, and all people want to talk about is the two different ways to look at the definition of being .500
Yes, less rational hockey talk, more cheerleading!
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Old 12-09-2016, 10:07 AM   #247
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The simplest way to look at the standings while taking games in hand into account is to look at games over .500.

For example, the current Pacific Division standings with this method is:

San Jose +5
Anaheim +4
Edmonton +3
Calgary +2
LA Kings +2
Vancouver -1
Arizona -5

If you look at just Cgy and Edm, they have the same points but the Oilers have a game in hand and thus rightly so are 1 up on us. If they lose in regulation tonight the teams will be tied, if the Oilers lose in extra time they will be 1 point up, and if they win they will be 2 points up, which will line up exactly with the what the standings will say at the end of the night as both teams will then have played the same # of games.

Essentially a game in hand is worth a point which is pretty close to reality. Of course for good teams a game in hand is actually worth a bit more than a point and for terrible teams it is worth a bit less but this is an easy way to get a much better snapshot of reality than just looking at points.
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Old 12-09-2016, 10:09 AM   #248
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Forget the salary then. My question is:

Is Tkachuk not playing the way one might have expected Brouwer to when he was acquired?
I never saw Brouwer as a pest. More of a net front presence with toughness, but not with the attitude that Tkachuk has.

Either way, not really sure what your point is? That Brouwer is overpaid? That Tkachuk is underpaid (he's supposed to be)? Brouwers bringing about what I expected. I'd like to see more points, but we have enough other offensive weapons that it's not necessary. Anything he pots is gravy.

Brouwer's a UFA signing. They almost always have about $1m/1y extra than they would have otherwise.
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I never saw Brouwer as a pest. More of a net front presence with toughness, but not with the attitude that Tkachuk has.

Either way, not really sure what your point is? That Brouwer is overpaid? That Tkachuk is underpaid (he's supposed to be)? Brouwers bringing about what I expected. I'd like to see more points, but we have enough other offensive weapons that it's not necessary. Anything he pots is gravy.

Brouwer's a UFA signing. They almost always have about $1m/1y extra than they would have otherwise.

I would also add, that we will probably see Brouwer's real value when we get into March/April and if we make it into the playoffs.
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I may be in the minority but, I have been disappointed in Brodie's play thus far. He struggles a lot and doesn't look like he did the last couple years. I hope he improves soon because he is fun to watch when he's really good.

HUGE WIN!! Good job boys, keep er' rolling!!
The mandate of the new system is everything goes up the ice, no evading back into your own zone with the puck to open up the ice, push it forward. So you're not going to see that Brodie again under this new system.

It appears to be working.
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The simplest way to look at the standings while taking games in hand into account is to look at games over .500.
Or you can simply look at the standings by point percentage.

https://www.sportingcharts.com/nhl/s...per-game/2016/
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I missed parts of the game, including the three fights mentioned in the game review on the Flames site. Can anyone tell me where I might find the fights?
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Yes, less rational hockey talk, more cheerleading!
Sometimes unabashed cheerleading is a good thing. It's kinda why we all became fans in the first place.
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Kristen Odland ‏@Kristen_Odland 13m13 minutes ago
#Flames GM Brad Treliving is on @SNHockeyCentral, talking about the #Flames turnaround. Calls training camp "clunky" ... Exactly.
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I missed parts of the game, including the three fights mentioned in the game review on the Flames site. Can anyone tell me where I might find the fights?
Galaxy gif'd them for his game recap on the Flames Reddit.
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Sometimes unabashed cheerleading is a good thing. It's kinda why we all became fans in the first place.
It's also what drives posters to wanting to fire the coach after 5 games, to trade hamilton and to bench Monahan.
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I missed parts of the game, including the three fights mentioned in the game review on the Flames site. Can anyone tell me where I might find the fights?
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It's also what drives posters to wanting to fire the coach after 5 games, to trade hamilton and to bench Monahan.
No, thats alcohol.
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Or you can simply look at the standings by point percentage.

https://www.sportingcharts.com/nhl/s...per-game/2016/
ya but that involves math or looking at a separate table.

The games above/below 0.500 is quick and easy with just looking at the regular standings.
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