Yeah, but just outside of being an enforcer, he was a dirty player himself.
I heard that a lot when all the allstar stuff was going on. As someone that didn't particularly pay attention to Scott in his career, what are examples of what he did? Is he a Raffi Torres or Matt Cooke level dbag?
I heard that a lot when all the allstar stuff was going on. As someone that didn't particularly pay attention to Scott in his career, what are examples of what he did? Is he a Raffi Torres or Matt Cooke level dbag?
The same people would turn around and cheer for Tkachuk playing on the edge. John Scott never headbutted anyone. Even the Kessel incident showed that Scott put on his enforcement hat when things went down but never did anything overly stupid, despite being batted at by a hockey stick. There's few players in the league who are/were pathologically physical, and you labelled the two that come to my mind.
The same people would turn around and cheer for Tkachuk playing on the edge. John Scott never headbutted anyone. Even the Kessel incident showed that Scott put on his enforcement hat when things went down but never did anything overly stupid, despite being batted at by a hockey stick. There's few players in the league who are/were pathologically physical, and you labelled the two that come to my mind.
I actually watched hockey before the year 2000 and have very little issue with these East/West hits. Headbutting is way dirtier than going for a big hit and recklessly putting your arm up because 1) you think you might miss your hit, or 2) Poor follow-through.
No more dirty than Staal on Stajan and he didn't even get a penalty for it.
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Ahh I see, clean hit no problem then. It was good too when he hit Jackman in the face with the butt end of his stick. Carry on folks.
Go check out the video, I can't post it at work, but its a blindside shoulder check to the chin, they are honestly almost identical. Staal defended it as he did nothing wrong, the NHL called it a good check. Scott's showed remorse and was indefinitely suspended. The difference? Staal is a skill defender and Scott is a goon.
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What a great article. The hockey stuff was awesome, and his appreciation was really cool to read. I can totally relate to the part about him knowing the disney characters and being the only dad at dance class, waving to his princess. lol. Just awesome. Little girls can melt the toughest dudes. The fact that he added that to his article is so genuinely awesome.
I agree with whoever said to add that there's a PT article to the thread title. I almost didn't read this thread because I didn't expect any interesting extra details to the fact that a guy is retiring. That was a fantastic read.
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Yeah that was a great read and the only reason I clicked on the thread was because I saw 4x4 posted. Agree with adding that there's a players tribune in here. Just a fantastic read.
Nothing wrong at all with Ghost-Writers, even being an intelligent and educated individual doesnt guarantee any aptitude for writing.
I like that they obviously have some good writers on staff that really manage to eloquently craft these guys' stories.
Scott was on TSN radio in Montreal for about 20 minutes with Mitch Melnyk this afternoon. Was every bit as honest and enjoyable as the article, but Melnyk is fantastic at that sort of thing too.
It's great that the writers at players tribute help bring across these player stories as they deserve to be told.
I heard that a lot when all the allstar stuff was going on. As someone that didn't particularly pay attention to Scott in his career, what are examples of what he did? Is he a Raffi Torres or Matt Cooke level dbag?
I wouldn't put him at that level, but the Chris Neil level. He would take liberties on players if given the chance.
That's why I find the notion funny that the "NHL needs players like me to protect the stars from players like me...".
I don't disagree that there are many like him, but that was pretty much the only reason he was on the ice.
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The fact that people consider hits like this to be dirty is one of the reasons I'm not as interested in the NHL as I used to be. That's on Loui to keep his head up in that situation.
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The fact that people consider hits like this to be dirty is one of the reasons I'm not as interested in the NHL as I used to be. That's on Loui to keep his head up in that situation.
No it's not. That kind of hit adds nothing to the game.
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It's a freaking elbow to the mush. What about that seems clean to anyone? Good lord. I like John Scott in terms of his personality, but that's an incredibly dirty hit and it's totally obvious. It's not even really a hit when you chicken wing a guy like that, it's just a cheap shot.
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It's a freaking elbow to the mush. What about that seems clean to anyone? Good lord. I like John Scott in terms of his personality, but that's an incredibly dirty hit and it's totally obvious. It's not even really a hit when you chicken wing a guy like that, it's just a cheap shot.
I suggest you watch again - it's a shoulder to the head check from the side less than a second after the puck is passed. This type of hit was not a rare occurrence less than a decade ago.
For reference, here are some great 90's hits from one of the best all time:
Unfortunately nowadays Stevens would be suspended after each of these and there would be a Royal Commission into his conduct.
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I suggest you watch again - it's a shoulder to the head check from the side less than a second after the puck is passed. This type of hit was not a rare occurrence less than a decade ago.
For reference, here are some great 90's hits from one of the best all time:
Unfortunately nowadays Stevens would be suspended after each of these and there would be a Royal Commission into his conduct.
At the time, I thought many of those hits were great. But looking back, the hit on Kariya especially should absolutely nowadays be considered a dirty hit.
