[Signing] Blues sign Kenny Agostino (one year, 625k)

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by blankall

Feaster had far from a perfect situation in which to make that trade. Iginla agreed to a trade but only allowed it to a few teams. Iginla was also coming off a bad year, and it was obvious that he was on the decline.

Anyone expecting more than a 1st rounder and a couple of good, but not great, prospects was expecting too much. That was his price and both potential deals reflected that.

Bad GM.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by blankall

Feaster had far from a perfect situation in which to make that trade. Iginla agreed to a trade but only allowed it to a few teams. Iginla was also coming off a bad year, and it was obvious that he was on the decline.

Anyone expecting more than a 1st rounder and a couple of good, but not great, prospects was expecting too much. That was his price and both potential deals reflected that.

Sort of true, but looking at Feasters other trades it's very apparent that other GM's were taking advantage of him. I think a more competent GM would have had better offers for Iggy even with his short list. I look no farther that what we got for Bouwmeester. That trade was as bad, if not worse ,than the Iggy trade at the deadline.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Sort of true, but looking at Feasters other trades it's very apparent that other GM's were taking advantage of him. I think a more competent GM would have had better offers for Iggy even with his short list. I look no farther that what we got for Bouwmeester. That trade was as bad, if not worse ,than the Iggy trade at the deadline.

Hands were tied on the Bouwmeester deal too, not only did Bouwmeester have a NMC, he had an additional year on his contract at a quite high AAV. Finding a team he was willing to waive for that also had cap space was far from an easy task. Judging Feaster on trades where he was shedding a guy with a NMC and a high salary is completely unfair IMO. Unfortunately for him that was the majority of his trades because he was busy cleaning up after Sutter.

[Imported_Aussie]

Feaster's trades here are like what happened to Chiarelli trading Hall - they were trading from a position of weakness, teams were not going to give full value due to this, but ultimately, the trade is made anyway with the belief that the result of the trade will be addition by subtraction/rebalancing the team

[devo22]

has now been confirmed by GeneralFanager, CapFriendly and others. Landed himself a one-way deal, good for him!

CapFriendly ‏@CapFriendly
#CapFriendly CONFIRMED: Kenny Agostino #Blues 1 year deal / 1 way cap hit = $625,000 (575,000 base + $50,000 SB)

[pacde]

Weird
they are willing to sign him to a one way deal on first day of free agency - but he never got a sniff here
same player

I always wonder about politics in these kinds of situations.

[saXon]

Originally Posted by pacde

Weird
they are willing to sign him to a one way deal on first day of free agency - but he never got a sniff here
same player

I always wonder about politics in these kinds of situations.

The kid always had jump, however Hartley had his favourites. It's something I'm hoping has been put to rest in this organization and the new set of eyes can objectively let people play who deserve it.

[Alberta_Beef]

Good for Agostino I hope he makes the Blues out of camp

[codynw]

This is one guy that I would have liked to see back. He never really got a chance, even though he probably earned one.

Oh well. At least Bollig got ice time.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Hands were tied on the Bouwmeester deal too, not only did Bouwmeester have a NMC, he had an additional year on his contract at a quite high AAV. Finding a team he was willing to waive for that also had cap space was far from an easy task. Judging Feaster on trades where he was shedding a guy with a NMC and a high salary is completely unfair IMO. Unfortunately for him that was the majority of his trades because he was busy cleaning up after Sutter.

I don't remember anything forcing Feaster to trade Boumeester. We weren't going anywhere, he could have taken his time and waited for the best deal. If teams were up against the cap, he could have waited until teams cleared space after the season was over. He seemed to always have an excuse until you looked closely.

[sureLoss]

blues say it is a 2-way deal

http://blues.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=888398

[IgiTang]

Iginla screwed us on the return more than feaster did guys.

The only other option was to lose Jerome at the end of the season for nothing.

I hold Iginla accountable for his trade, not Jay.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Iginla screwed us on the return more than feaster did guys.

The only other option was to lose Jerome at the end of the season for nothing.

I hold Iginla accountable for his trade, not Jay.

How did Igina screw us? Sutter was the one to sign him with an NMC attached, though he definitely deserved one. Both the BOS and PIT trade packages were turd sandwiches, regardless of the NMC. Kind of pick your poison there but I do beleive a better GM would've held his own better in those negotiations. Feaster really only made two okay trades in his tenure, aquiring Stempniak for a broken Langkow, and the Cammalleri trade. Everything else was pretty bad IMO.

Bottom line, Iginla wasn't interested in re-signing because the team was bad, so they had to trade him to get "something" for him. You can blame years of mismanagement under Feaster and Sutter for that. I wouldn't of wanted to stay here either if I was him.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

blues say it is a 2-way deal

http://blues.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=888398

This makes a lot more sense. I could not figure out what he did that was so great in the AHL that would get him a one way contract. That said, even at $625k he would probably just be higher paid AHL player like Butler. Butler also plays for the blues organization.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Iginla screwed us on the return more than feaster did guys.

The only other option was to lose Jerome at the end of the season for nothing.

I hold Iginla accountable for his trade, not Jay.

How did Igina screw us? Sutter was the one to sign him with an NMC attached, though he definitely deserved one. Both the BOS and PIT trade packages were turd sandwiches, regardless of the NMC. Kind of pick your poison there but I do beleive a better GM would've held his own better in those negotiations. Feaster really only made two okay trades in his tenure, aquiring Stempniak for a broken Langkow, and the Cammalleri trade. Everything else was pretty bad IMO. I suppose Russell was a solid trade as well.

Bottom line, Iginla wasn't interested in re-signing because the team was bad, so they had to trade him to get "something" for him. You can blame years of mismanagement under Feaster and Sutter for that. I wouldn't of wanted to stay here either if I was him.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

How did Igina screw us? Sutter was the one to sign him with an NMC attached, though he definitely deserved one. Both the BOS and PIT trade packages were turd sandwiches, regardless of the NMC. Kind of pick your poison there but I do beleive a better GM would've held his own better in those negotiations. Feaster really only made two okay trades in his tenure, aquiring Stempniak for a broken Langkow, and the Cammalleri trade. Everything else was pretty bad IMO. I suppose Russell was a solid trade as well.

Bottom line, Iginla wasn't interested in re-signing because the team was bad, so they had to trade him to get "something" for him. You can blame years of mismanagement under Feaster and Sutter for that. I wouldn't of wanted to stay here either if I was him.

Yeah neither package was good but King went on TV later to say that the next time this happens they'll get it in writing on what teams a player is willing to go to. So yeah he's admitting the screw up. I also think Iginla wasn't enamoured with Hartley's coaching that moved him to the 2nd and 3rd lines.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by saXon

The kid always had jump, however Hartley had his favourites. It's something I'm hoping has been put to rest in this organization and the new set of eyes can objectively let people play who deserve it.

Not sure this has anything to do with Hartley.

The Flames made this decision post-Hartley, and Huska is the one who has seen Agostino play the most. If anything, this decision suggests multiple levels of the organization were fine with letting him walk.

[Robbob]

Not a big deal. The flames have a lot of picks and signings starting to come through. Nothing more than prospects being passed. Long term just not in the plans.

[getbak]

If it is a two-way deal (which makes sense for a guy who hasn't really proven anything yet), it's not only less than what his qualifying offer would have been from the Flames, but it's also less than he made last season.

[sureLoss]

Agostino had 2g+3a in a 7-3 pre-season win over the Blue Jackets!

https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/cbj-v...e_tab=boxscore

Yes it is only pre-season, but wow. Took over that 3rd period.