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07-01-2016, 05:33 AM
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#702
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
Right. Which is part of ‘since 2005’. So this is not the best defence Edmonton has iced since 2005.
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There wasn't an 04-05 season, so yes, it is.
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07-01-2016, 05:56 AM
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#703
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Lifetime Suspension
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I think this thread has lost sight of the fact that not only is Larsson not nearly as good as Hall, Larsson also objectively sucks. He's not a good player. Period.
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07-01-2016, 06:07 AM
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#704
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
I think this thread has lost sight of the fact that not only is Larsson not nearly as good as Hall, Larsson also objectively sucks. He's not a good player. Period.
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Care to back that up with something tangible?
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07-01-2016, 07:15 AM
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#705
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Crash and Bang Winger
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If they get lucic then it will be like hall for lucic and Larsson. Not bad
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07-01-2016, 07:26 AM
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#706
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Cantrader
If they get lucic then it will be like hall for lucic and Larsson. Not bad
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No it won't, people need to stop saying this. It will still be Hall for Larsson. They were going after Lucic no matter what.
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07-01-2016, 09:07 AM
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#707
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Originally Posted by N-E-B
No it won't, people need to stop saying this. It will still be Hall for Larsson. They were going after Lucic no matter what.
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But getting rid of hall = cap space for Lucic?
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07-01-2016, 09:09 AM
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#708
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Threadkiller
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They only gained 1.8 million in space.
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07-01-2016, 09:09 AM
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#709
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
But getting rid of hall = cap space for Lucic?
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They had the space
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07-01-2016, 09:12 AM
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#710
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
But getting rid of hall = cap space for Lucic?
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Good point, but what was stopping them getting draft picks and/or prospects from the Devils along with Larsson? Don't need cap space for those sort of assets.
Yes, they will come out ahead if they emerge with Lucic and Larsson and have traded Hall, but it won't change the fact that Hall for Larsson was a crappy deal in which they got nowhere near enough value for Hall.
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07-01-2016, 09:26 AM
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#711
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
They had the space
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That vanishes over the next 2 years badly. The only really bad contract they lose next year is Ferrence. But they have to sign Draisaitl, get something to replace Yak and resign Kassian who is in a show me year. On the blueline Reinhart needs a new deal. The year after that its McDavid, Nurse and Davidson.
If they sign Lucic to a 7x6 or 7x7 they're rebuilding again in the next couple of years because they don't have any farm depth that will give them cheap good value contracts.
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07-01-2016, 09:27 AM
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#712
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Originally Posted by JJ1532
Good point, but what was stopping them getting draft picks and/or prospects from the Devils along with Larsson?
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My guess is none were offered.
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07-01-2016, 09:27 AM
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#713
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
That vanishes over the next 2 years badly. The only really bad contract they lose next year is Ferrence. But they have to sign Draisaitl, get something to replace Yak and resign Kassian who is in a show me year. On the blueline Reinhart needs a new deal. The year after that its McDavid, Nurse and Davidson.
If they sign Lucic to a 7x6 or 7x7 they're rebuilding again in the next couple of years because they don't have any farm depth that will give them cheap good value contracts.
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Don't disagree, but sadly that trading Hall was mostly for $1.8M in "space" to sign Lucic is a strange take on the trade
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07-01-2016, 09:48 AM
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#714
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Originally Posted by Dion
I love this comment from HF Oilers....
Originally Posted by Replacement
If you don't value and comprehend the worth of having Taylor Hall or Seguin then no, I don't trust Chia. He's now traded away two generational forwards who at one point this season were both top 4 in NHL scoring.
This is not testimony to Chia having balls, or some magical knowledge of building a team its about his arrogance, avarice, and putting his own thoughts and *wisdom* over even some of the best players on the planet worth.
We're basically viewing gall. That's what this is.
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Did I forget to watch hockey for the last 5 years?
When has Hall ever been considered "generational".
I like Larsson, so i dislike this trade.
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07-01-2016, 10:02 AM
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#715
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
I think this thread has lost sight of the fact that not only is Larsson not nearly as good as Hall, Larsson also objectively sucks. He's not a good player. Period.
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I think that Larsson is a very good young defenseman, I'm not sure of his top pairing potential though because he has the offensive skills of a potato. On top of that I think that he needed a really strong partner like Green to be constantly good, and I don't think the Oilers have anything close to that.
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07-01-2016, 06:28 PM
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#716
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
There wasn't an 04-05 season, so yes, it is.
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There was, however, an '05-06 season.
That was the season when the Oilers had Pronger.
Pronger played for the Oilers in 2006.
2006 came after 2005.
Therefore, the Oilers have had a defence with Pronger on it since 2005.
That defence with Pronger was better than what the Oilers have now.
Therefore, the Oilers have had a defence since 2005 that is better than they have now.
Geez, I can't believe how obtuse you're being about this.
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07-01-2016, 07:56 PM
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#717
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Calgary
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7 years? Wholly ####
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07-01-2016, 10:28 PM
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#718
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Backup Goalie
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
I think this thread has lost sight of the fact that not only is Larsson not nearly as good as Hall, Larsson also objectively sucks. He's not a good player. Period.
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Try watching a Devils game stat geek.
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07-02-2016, 01:30 AM
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#719
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Dan02
7 years? Wholly ####
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I'm not entirely sure that was a typo, but yes, I agree. That contract was wholly ####!
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07-03-2016, 02:50 AM
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#720
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by McClintock
Eberle will shelter Puljus minutes provided he doesn't getting traded.
Hall is LW
Puljujarvi is RW
(not that they cant switch sides but still)
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Pull juice? I knew oilfans were.excited about thi kid dropping to them but damn, wipe that up!
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