06-23-2017, 11:38 AM
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#61
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
Oh I know, price was definitely too high, but Saad is exactly the type of player I think the Flames need. Would create all sorts of space on a Gaudreau-Monahan line.
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Except apparently you'd have to pay Gaudreau to get him.
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06-23-2017, 11:40 AM
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#62
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Ass Handler
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Okotoks, AB
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Whoa!
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06-23-2017, 11:40 AM
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#63
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Might not fill the net? What? His goal totals the last 4 years are 28, 29, 22, 29. He fills the net and is only 24. Also has good size and blazing speed.
Both players in this deal are top notch young, skilled players
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Yeah, I should have continued my thought there, they are both great goal scores, but Panarin is more of a human highlight reel type.
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06-23-2017, 11:49 AM
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#64
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Panarin had 57 ES points last year, Saad had 50.
Their difference in offence is basically entirely attributable to PP time and Paranin playing with Kane.
I'm guessing Panarin's spot on Kane's line will be (eventually) filled by Debrincat, another smallish but highly skilled winger.
With Saad signed for 2 additional years, and known chemistry with Toews, this looks like a pretty good swap for Chicago.
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06-23-2017, 12:15 PM
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#65
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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06-23-2017, 12:22 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Oshie would need to take significantly less salary. Hawks don't have a lot of room as it is and they would also need to move Hossa's contract for it to really work.
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06-23-2017, 12:36 PM
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#67
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
I think today marks the first steps toward the end for Chicago as a favourite.
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I don't see the Hawks really being any worse after today. I would prefer Saad in the playoffs over Panarin.
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06-23-2017, 01:17 PM
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#68
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
I don't see the Hawks really being any worse after today. I would prefer Saad in the playoffs over Panarin.
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Let's see if Chicago can use the Hossa cap space to sign Oshie, who played college hockey with Toews (although he would undoubtedly be the new triggerman for Kane).
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06-23-2017, 01:20 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Oshie would need to take significantly less salary. Hawks don't have a lot of room as it is and they would also need to move Hossa's contract for it to really work.
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If that happens, you can erase my previous statement entirely. Hawks Pens 2018 finals. Ugh.
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06-23-2017, 01:23 PM
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I think Chicago lost this one.
I think Hawks want Oshie.
Cam they afford him at $6?
I don't think he takes a big haircut to play for the Hawks.
It's not like any of their stars took bargain contracts recently. Why should a mid tier guy look at that and decide he'll be the one to give the Hawks a break?
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06-23-2017, 01:30 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Reminds me of the Flames reacquiring Conroy hoping they can rekindle past success. Hawks are still a really good team but I'm not buying that Panarin over Saad is the reason they have been eliminated in the first round two years in a row. I can understand why they did it but to me it's a little knee jerk. Pavel Datsyuk was horrible (played scared) in the playoffs in successive seasons against the Flames in 2004 and Oilers in 2006 but the Wings were rewarded for their patience.
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06-23-2017, 02:17 PM
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#72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Reminds me of the Flames reacquiring Conroy hoping they can rekindle past success. Hawks are still a really good team but I'm not buying that Panarin over Saad is the reason they have been eliminated in the first round two years in a row. I can understand why they did it but to me it's a little knee jerk. Pavel Datsyuk was horrible (played scared) in the playoffs in successive seasons against the Flames in 2004 and Oilers in 2006 but the Wings were rewarded for their patience.
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Saad is 24 years old. He hasn't hit his prime yet.
Conroy was 35 when the Flames re-acquired him, coming off a year where he had 5 goals and 16 points.
I don't think Chicago is blaming Panarin for their playoff failures the last 2 years.
I do think they think Saad is a better all a round player better suited to playoff hockey, with a contract that runs 4 years instead of 2.
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06-23-2017, 02:19 PM
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#73
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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06-23-2017, 02:21 PM
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#74
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Fans in Chicago have their heads spinning. Most fans are pissed about these 2 trades today and the horrible Butler trade last night in the NBA.
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06-23-2017, 02:35 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Like i was saying about the russians ....
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06-23-2017, 02:37 PM
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#76
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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The thing that surprises me the most about this trade is that Panarin is actually a year older than Saad.
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06-23-2017, 02:47 PM
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#77
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Chicago got cost certainty and a much tougher player. Something they said they wanted was to become tougher to play against. The trade helps them out with both those needs.
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06-23-2017, 03:12 PM
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#78
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Corral
Like i was saying about the russians ....
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What?
What were you saying about the Russians?
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06-23-2017, 03:56 PM
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#79
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
What?
What were you saying about the Russians?
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Maybe they got him 
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06-23-2017, 04:02 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Stampede Grounds
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
What?
What were you saying about the Russians?
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Too soft on the ice, when it matters the most - with limited exceptions of course. I was tarred and feathered for that comment in another thread about Ovechkin- but i still think most NHL GMs believe this to be the case.
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