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Old 09-29-2016, 05:12 PM   #41
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Old 09-29-2016, 05:19 PM   #42
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So, if someone asks for your bottles say no.

Your post is pretty ignorant of reality. My brother is the president of a small town minor hockey association and the amount of families struggling to cover registration fees at their current level is way up. No surprise there.

On any given team there will be kids who get dropped off in the family Range Rover and kids who only make it to the rink if someone picks them up because the parents both work and don't have a reliable car and every variation in between.

What do you think "Kid Sport and the like" does? Sit around like Scrooge McDuck swimming in gold coins hoping somebody might need their help in a given year? No, they struggle every season to try to help as many as they can on a limited budget.

If you want the sport to become only for affluent people then sure, just raise the fees. Before any cash calls or fundraising, my son's registration this year was $1,200.00 for Atom. If it went up to $2,000.00 I probably could swing it but I know many who could not. By the way, if you are wondering, I have a Chrysler and a Kia...are those lowly enough to get a bag of empties?

Or, we could keep as many kids in the community playing this amazing sport by tolerating kids rolling up their sleeves and asking for some bottles once in a while (without putting any gun to your head and allowing you to just not donate anything). Oh the humanity!

$1200!!! What association are you from?
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The ridiculous part of kids sports is somehow teams have to do tournaments and other expenses (jackets and bags and other crap). Why is all this stuff neccessary for 10 year olds playing low level hockey or soccer.
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The ridiculous part of kids sports is somehow teams have to do tournaments and other expenses (jackets and bags and other crap). Why is all this stuff neccessary for 10 year olds playing low level hockey or soccer.
Exactly! Only rich and or good kids should get those kinds of memories.
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Just out of curiosity how much do you guys get from CH Toyota per team?

The Dodge sponsorship is apparently $500 so I'm just curious how that compares to the dealership sponsorship.
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Old 09-29-2016, 07:12 PM   #46
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Just out of curiosity how much do you guys get from CH Toyota per team?

The Dodge sponsorship is apparently $500 so I'm just curious how that compares to the dealership sponsorship.
CHT sponsors the association, I don't know the details. I am pretty sure no association will let you put sponsorship patches on their jerseys. Usually if someone wants to sponsor and have their name on a jersey they buy a third jersey and then the kids keep it.
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CHT sponsors the association, I don't know the details. I am pretty sure no association will let you put sponsorship patches on their jerseys. Usually if someone wants to sponsor and have their name on a jersey they buy a third jersey and then the kids keep it.
Our organization has this posted on their policies and I'm just waiting on clarification:

Sponsor logo can go within a 4” diameter on the front right side chest area. The sponsor name can also be shown in 3” high text on the back of the jersey at the bottom centred under the numbers and no wider than 16”, either white or navy only depending on the jersey colour.
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Old 09-29-2016, 07:36 PM   #48
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Our organization has this posted on their policies and I'm just waiting on clarification:

Sponsor logo can go within a 4” diameter on the front right side chest area. The sponsor name can also be shown in 3” high text on the back of the jersey at the bottom centred under the numbers and no wider than 16”, either white or navy only depending on the jersey colour.
That would be a nightmare for the equipment manager at the end of the season. Teams have a hard enough time taking the C's and A's off of the jersey at the end of the season never mind a big sponsorship patch.

I read your policies, the last paragraph says sponsors can purchase a set of jerseys. So the patch would just stay on for as long as the jerseys are used.

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That would be a nightmare for the equipment manager at the end of the season. Teams have a hard enough time taking the C's and A's off of the jersey at the end of the season never mind a big sponsorship patch.
I'm assuming any letters or patches left on the jerseys will result in some money being withheld from our jersey/equipment deposit.
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We don't take deposits on equipment. Good luck on your fundraising. My son's team has a cash call ($100). Association has a silent auction, and that is usually enough for the season. We also hold a tournament which is a few more bucks for the team.
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We are doing a raffle. It's 16 kids and each family is responsible for selling 30 tickets and the tickets cost $20 each, which works out to $9600. Last year if a family was having trouble selling the tickets we would all pitch in and help.

Out of that the managers are buying a $2,000 travel voucher, an ipad, and $250 in booze to give away as prizes.

This leaves just over $6,000 for the season. The money should cover 4 tournaments throughout the years, all the relevant coach requirements (Safety, Coach course, etc.), pucks, pylons, practice jerseys, and other equipment required, and a few social events for the kids.
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We are doing a raffle. It's 16 kids and each family is responsible for selling 30 tickets and the tickets cost $20 each, which works out to $9600. Last year if a family was having trouble selling the tickets we would all pitch in and help.

Out of that the managers are buying a $2,000 travel voucher, an ipad, and $250 in booze to give away as prizes.

This leaves just over $6,000 for the season. The money should cover 4 tournaments throughout the years, all the relevant coach requirements (Safety, Coach course, etc.), pucks, pylons, practice jerseys, and other equipment required, and a few social events for the kids.
16 kids? I thought your teams only have 7?
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Last year (AAA Bantam) the team did 2 raffles on a side of beef each set of parents had to sell 20 tickets at $20 for each raffle, with 17 kids that is a lot of money, there were some other prizes in there as well, hockey tickets, booze basket. The team made close to $10k. The live beef was donated however so obviously that really helped, but still could make some money on a beef raffle. At the end of the year the money the parents had contributed to the slush fund was all returned.

This year (AAA 15 yr) they're selling $250 business card advertisements for their game day "program" which is a roster sheet that becomes a booklet of business card advertisements, they would like 3-4 from each kid so $14000 or so. These are also charitable donations as even though they are team specific, the minor hockey association will provide a tax receipt.
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Exactly! Only rich and or good kids should get those kinds of memories.
Or only rich kids can afford those memories because people who can barely afford the registration fees are continually asked for more so no longer register their kids.

Jackets don't enhance memories.
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Or only rich kids can afford those memories because people who can barely afford the registration fees are continually asked for more so no longer register their kids.

Jackets don't enhance memories.
Jackets? No probably not. Not sure what team you are on, probably not low level if they are fundraising to buy jackets. Or was that hyperbole?

Tournaments for sure enhance memories and create all kinds of new ones. Not just for the kids, parents too.
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As someone who doesn't have kids, if neighbourhood kids announced they were doing a bottle drive for their sports team, I would save my empties for them. The problem with that in the past though, is they usually send out a flyer with only a few days notice and I toss mine in my blue bin usually, so unless I'm having a party, there isn't much.

If neighbourhood kids offered to rake my leaves for a reasonable fee, I would pay them no matter what they were raising money for (sports team, drug habit, anything).

Casinos make a lot of money but they are a LOT of work. There is very strict paper work involved and you need a lot of volunteers who are available for long shifts with crappy hours (good luck finding volunteers to work all day or night is you get a casino on a Tuesday, Wednesday or something. Also, there are strict regulations on just what the money can be used for.
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I know some of you guys have been through many years of minor hockey with your kids and you've probably seen all sorts of fundraising ideas over the years. What are some of the best fundraising opportunities?

This is only my third year in minor hockey so I haven't seen much. The first year I don't think we raised too much money and we did a couple of booze basket draws. Each family donated two bottles and we put together two baskets. It was pretty decent and relatively easy but the biggest hassle with that is the requirement to get the draw registered with AGLC and the record keeping of each ticket sold for audit purposes. Last year we sold Coop and Safeway gift cards and I thought it was a great fundraiser. It was really easy to set up and required pretty minimal effort. We raised $1050 which was a little lower than I expected because a couple families didn't really participate. I would do a gift card fundraiser again.

What are some other good fundraisers?

-Various raffles
-bottle drive (I hate the idea of this because it seems like a lot of work for little reward)
-various direct sales (chocolates, Spulumbos, etc. I don't really like these because it never seems to generate a lot of money and I hate trying to get friends and family to buy stuff)
-direct sponsorship (does anyone have a business that wants to donate some money to us?)
-Casino/bingo/50-50 draws
Pm me and I can chat about another option for you that might work.
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How much is the total cost nowadays for a single kid's winter season of Hockey? How much is normally covered by fundraising for an average team in an average association?
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How much is the total cost nowadays for a single kid's winter season of Hockey? How much is normally covered by fundraising for an average team in an average association?
We pay around $1,100 in registration fee's and then all required equpment which was about $250 this year. This is paid for by each parent.

Then come the tournaments which are the wild card as they can vary from $1,250 up to $1,700. Most teams have 3 or 4 tournaments per year. So a rough guess for tournaments would be an average price of $1,400 per tournament and an average of about 3.5 tournaments per year depending on the team and the parent group, which works out close to $350 per kid depending on team size. But then you have to pay for all coaches certifications, required equipment, social events, and other such costs. So let's say another $150 per kid for a total of $500 per child that has to be recovered by cash calls, fundraising, or sponsorship.

Just my rough guess and it really depends on the level of the team, goals of the coach, and what the parents want to do that year.
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We are doing a raffle. It's 16 kids and each family is responsible for selling 30 tickets and the tickets cost $20 each, which works out to $9600. Last year if a family was having trouble selling the tickets we would all pitch in and help.

Out of that the managers are buying a $2,000 travel voucher, an ipad, and $250 in booze to give away as prizes.

This leaves just over $6,000 for the season. The money should cover 4 tournaments throughout the years, all the relevant coach requirements (Safety, Coach course, etc.), pucks, pylons, practice jerseys, and other equipment required, and a few social events for the kids.
I'm not sure where you are located, but every association I have been part of in Calgary has paid for all coaching certification and provided basic necessities like pucks and pylons.
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