2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Machiavelli]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

That is very interesting. I would be curious to know the details behind his decision to do so.

Money?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Backlunds_socks

I think make or break is pretty harsh with regarts to S. Bennett. He's put up an 18 and 13 goal season plus 18 and 13 assists, averaging that to 15 goals and 15 assists.

A 30 point, 15 goal player is not a bust, however you want to cut it. If he stays that way he's very servicable.

I would guess that you are the only poster here who expects Bennett to top-out at 15 goals and 30 points.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

Money?

Probably. But how common is this? I have never heard of it happening before.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

This is a make or break year for Bennett. I hope he comes to camp ready to steal top 6 minutes and force Gulutzan to move him up the lineup. Fact is, he was passed by Matthew Tkachuk last season. I hope that pissed him off and he uses that to take a huge leap.

Make or break year for a kid that just turned 21 this month? Give me a break. This team had the patience to see Jankowski (a few months shy of two years older than Bennett) through so I don't see them doing anything drastic with Bennett. Is Jankowski's first NHL season going to be make or break? It should be according to some of the fan expectations on Bennett.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Probably. But how common is this? I have never heard of it happening before.

Marty brodeur used to represent himself

[IrishSpring2013]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Probably. But how common is this? I have never heard of it happening before.

see ovechkin, alex.

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Probably. But how common is this? I have never heard of it happening before.

Ference did his own contract negotiations, I'm sure there are a few others. Not very common though I'm sure.

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

Ference did his own contract negotiations, I'm sure there are a few others. Not very common though I'm sure.

and then IIRC, he was pissed because he gave a hometown discount and then was traded away to Boston the next year.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Make or break year for a kid that just turned 21 this month? Give me a break. This team had the patience to see Jankowski (a few months shy of two years older than Bennett) through so I don't see them doing anything drastic with Bennett. Is Jankowski's first NHL season going to be make or break? It should be according to some of the fan expectations on Bennett.

Well, I guess if you take exception to the use of the term "make or break", we can say this is a very important off-season and season for Bennett and if he has another 30 point season, we might want to temper our expectations.

I do think that if his offense doesn't pan out, he can be an effective bottom 6 agitator, if he cuts down on the retaliatory penalties. His 2-way play looked good down the stretch.

Mostly, I'm hopeful Bennett will take a jump.

Jankowski's situation is much different because he is expected to be a bottom 6 player and he has only played 1 NHL game. Expectations are much lower, although I would be disappointed if he doesn't make the NHL this year.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Make or break year for a kid that just turned 21 this month? Give me a break. This team had the patience to see Jankowski (a few months shy of two years older than Bennett) through so I don't see them doing anything drastic with Bennett. Is Jankowski's first NHL season going to be make or break? It should be according to some of the fan expectations on Bennett.

The question on Jankowski I think is rhetorical, but yeah, probably. Dude is older than Monahan and if he doesn't make the NHL now, he's looking at career 13th forward at best.

If it were up to me we'd sell high

[habernac]

Originally Posted by Demetric

Hearing Vegas is trying to move Emelin and having trouble, I think with salary retained would be a good replacement for Engelland on the 3rd pairing, thoughts?

Hits like a truck but makes a lot of bone headed plays. I'd stay away.

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrun

By the way, Andrei Markov (seeking 2-year deal) is representing himself in talks with the Habs. No agent.

And wants $6 million per year

[Toonage]

Emelin has Canucks written all over him.

[StrykerSteve]

6M for a soon to be 39 year old Markov? Is he insane?

[Young_Guns]

Originally Posted by habernac

Hits like a truck but makes a lot of bone headed plays. I'd stay away.



And wants $6 million per year

Wideman was making nearly just as much. Markov is still decent considering his age. They will prob lock him up for 2 years @ 4 mil, putting him right up to age 40.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

6M for a soon to be 39 year old Markov? Is he insane?

There was a rumour posted at HF that Markov was also talking to the Oilers. I sure hope that is true.

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Make or break year for a kid that just turned 21 this month? Give me a break. This team had the patience to see Jankowski (a few months shy of two years older than Bennett) through so I don't see them doing anything drastic with Bennett. Is Jankowski's first NHL season going to be make or break? It should be according to some of the fan expectations on Bennett.

Jankowski also spent 4 years in University and a year in the AHL. I would think Sam would have benefited from at least a year in the A as well.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Cheese

I would think Sam would have benefited from at least a year in the A as well.

That's pretty evident now. Bennett's first two seasons don't exactly scream 'too good for the AHL.'

[Jackpot_Smooth]

Originally Posted by habernac

Hits like a truck but makes a lot of bone headed plays. I'd stay away.

I agree. Plus, Engelland also defended his team mates. Emelin does everything he can to not fight. Even after borderline hits.

Not saying a player has to fight after a hit, just that Emelin is not engelland or what he provided.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by saillias

The question on Jankowski I think is rhetorical, but yeah, probably. Dude is older than Monahan and if he doesn't make the NHL now, he's looking at career 13th forward at best.

If it were up to me we'd sell high

Nothing about Jankowski is looking like a career 13th forward at best. In fact he's looking like he's on track to be a top two centre.

Stupid comment

[Love]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

It comes as no surprise that Bennett may have been willing to move.

The guy is a skilled center. He needs to play with skilled wingers.

You can't saddle him with players like Chaisson, Brouwer, Bouma, Versteeg and then chastise him for not producing.

Give him some skill and let him run with it.

And this is just it. Not only is he straddled to offensive anchors, but GG is reluctant to give him any PP time which is usually a huge confidence builder for young players. See the puck go in the net a few times, hear your name roared over the PA and it usually leads to playing with more poise. The opposite happened with Bennett. He came out of the gate flying trying to make an impact anyway he could, and it led to him taking some poor o-zone penalties which then avalanched into him getting benched. It took Sam until the playoffs to get back to flying the way he did in his rookie year and I honestly believe it was because he was terrified of getting benched again.

I saw another post about how Bennett's p/60 falls when playing with Gaudreau, but if we think about, have they ever gotten
the chance to develop chemistry? He gets sparse moments here and there, but I don't think he's ever gotten to play with Johnny more than a game or two in a row. When Monahan and Johnny are struggling we let them play through it, when Bennett is struggling he gets benched or demoted immediately. I'm hoping he can have his breakout season next year to finally shut everyone up, but if that doesn't happen I would be in favor of dealing him. And not because I'm not a believer in Sam Bennett (because he's my favorite player on the team), but just for the sake of the kids development. I'd rather see him go and thrive somewhere else where he can get the opportunity to realize his potential, which he won't do playing with a revolving door of 4th liners with minimal powerplay opportunity.