[Trade] Luongo (15% retained salary) traded to Panthers for Jacob Markstrom & Shawn Matthias

[Locke]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

Fasth is 32 next year

how much potential can he have

Yeah, I think with Fasth at this point what you see is what you get.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

Fasth is 32 next year

how much potential can he have

Yeah, Fasth will be 32 and Schrivens will be 28. The potential tag is gone.

[saXon]

I love Elliotte.

[19Yzerman19]

It's impossible to assess the relative rebuilds right now... Vancouver still has plenty of pieces that will likely get moved. Wait until after the draft.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by J-bo09

Always so easy to look back and say this.

Hindsight is 20/20

Dissagree, it was clear as day they'd past their prime by 2010, this organisations loyalty to Iginla gave them the wrong priorities and they missed the boat on when to start the rebuild. It is not something that should have required 20/20 hindsight.

Even if it's because there stars are asking out, it's actually forcing the Nucks to do something they should be doing, which is unfortunate for us long term.

[Voodooman]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Luongo and Steve Anthony to Panthers for Markstrom, Mathias and the Canucks retain 15% of Luongo's salary for rest of his contract.

The 15% equates to just over $1,000,000 per season.

So to sum up, you've traded 2 bonafide top 20 starting goalies, for a guy who's projected to be a 3rd line (maybe 2nd line) centre, a potential 20 goal scorer (with a current career high of 14 at age 26) and a goalie who's nowhere close to the level of 25 of the 30 current starters in the league. Oh, and you're paying $1M/year from now to the end of time.

I really though Lowe and MacTavish were the only contenders to take the alltime throne as biggest moron GM from the longtime holder Mike Milbury, but Mike Gillis is really emerging as a contender. He's so laughably bad, he should be a panelist on Sportsnet.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19

It's impossible to assess the relative rebuilds right now... Vancouver still has plenty of pieces that will likely get moved. Wait until after the draft.

yep, Gillis could screw everything up in dealing our assets and we still bottom out like Edmonton is continually doing and the Flames are right now

but at least there's hope now depending on the returns, most Canucks fans are happy with that

[Miniac]

Originally Posted by oil stain

the oilers tandem has posted much better stats than the flames tandem so its a case of them being better to begin with, plus having potential.

lmao

[19Yzerman19]

Originally Posted by Voodooman

The 15% equates to just over $1,000,000 per season.

Where do you get that math from? His cap hit is 5.3, 15% of that is $795k.

Also it sounded like they'd done this season by season, so they retain more in the first four years? Basically to offset some of the recapture penalty if he retires later, I would guess.

[dissentowner]

lmao, the thread in the trade section on HF is absolute gold! Canuck fans saying such nonsense as they won the trade and Markstrom > Luongo. A year ago Nazim Kadri+ was not fair enough value for them and now they are saying they fleeced Florida? Most ridiculous fan base ever!

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

yep, Gillis could screw everything up in dealing our assets and we still bottom out like Edmonton is continually doing and the Flames are right now

but at least there's hope now depending on the returns, most Canucks fans are happy with that

If the Canucks at least play hard like the Flames and lose rather than coast like the Oilers and lose it probably will be palpable as I can honestly say it hasn't been that bad so far as being a Flames fan. Fans are smart so you can't sell only potential on its own as in the mean time you need to see a team at least play hard for the fans.

[Red John]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

I disagree on the prospects base, I think both are average/below-average

neither are great

but for the NHL depth going forward it completely depends on what Gillis gets for Kesler and/or Edler

Calgarys prospect pool is far better than the canucks. So is basically every other teams.

Can't believe you actually tried to argue that.

[Ashasx]

Maybe Florida can start winning some games.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

yep, Gillis could screw everything up in dealing our assets and we still bottom out like Edmonton is continually doing and the Flames are right now

but at least there's hope now depending on the returns, most Canucks fans are happy with that

Hate to break it to you but the Canucks are bottoming out right now, with their current core in tact. Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

Trading off their proven starter and one of their top two centres is only going to see them bottom out worse. I think you should lift up the goggles and take a good look because you're in for a shocker. The Canucks are going to be terrible for years to come.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19

Where do you get that math from? His cap hit is 5.3, 15% of that is $795k.

Also it sounded like they'd done this season by season, so they retain more in the first four years? Basically to offset some of the recapture penalty if he retires later, I would guess.

The percentage is the same every year. The actual dollars will be different each year because he gets paid a different amount each year.

[socktape]

I thought there was a clause in the CBA stating you couldn't retain a portion of a traded players salary. Did I miss something?

[Badgers Nose]

$4.5 mil cap hit to get a goalie like Luongo?

Tallon strikes again?

[Flash Walken]

Acquilini paying Luongo a million dollars a year to play for someone else.

[19Yzerman19]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

If the Canucks at least play hard like the Flames and lose rather than coast like the Oilers and lose it probably will be palpable as I can honestly say it hasn't been that bad so far as being a Flames fan. Fans are smart so you can't sell only potential on its own as in the mean time you need to see a team at least play hard for the fans.

Yeah except it's the Canucks; they didn't play hard when they were good.

[sureLoss]

Joe Haggerty @HackswithHaggs
Tim Thomas spotted at TD Garden having a chat while prepping for start vs Bruins. He did not look like a happy man at all. Can't blame him