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View Poll Results: What are you buying?
Xbox One 66 15.46%
PS4 189 44.26%
Changed from Xbox One to PS4 8 1.87%
Changed from PS4 to Xbox One 6 1.41%
Getting both (eventually) 30 7.03%
Waiting for more info 60 14.05%
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Old 10-09-2014, 05:33 PM   #3641
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I'm starting to think that fan boy is your favorite word. I have had every system between the two. I just took issue with the 4k thing. Cool your jets fanboy.
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Old 10-09-2014, 07:09 PM   #3642
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I'm starting to think that fan boy is your favorite word. I have had every system between the two. I just took issue with the 4k thing. Cool your jets fanboy.
It's already ice and you need to decide if it's "fan boy" or "fanboy".
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Old 10-09-2014, 07:41 PM   #3643
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the funny thing is the title of the thread is

"VIDEOGAME POLITICS THUNDERDOME - PS4:900p-XBone:720p-PC::smug:"

XBONE 720p

Xbone can do 4k because they say it can?

I have a rock that outputs 4k, now you can't see it but I assure you it does
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Old 10-09-2014, 08:12 PM   #3644
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So the week has been an interesting one for Ubisoft. Some more responses from them after Pontbriand was caught being surprisingly honest.

http://www.vg247.com/2014/10/09/30-w...eed-unity-dev/

60 is really good for a shooter, action adventure not so much. It actually feels better for people when it’s at that 30fps.


So they'll forcefully cap the PC version to 30 fps I assume?


http://blog.ubi.com/assassins-creed-...ution-players/

Let’s be clear up front: Ubisoft does not constrain its games. We would not limit a game’s resolution. And we would never do anything to intentionally diminish anything we’ve produced or developed.


Good summary of things from a post I saw on Neogaf:


Wait a minute.

So first you say "we're locking the game arbitrarily to avoid debates"

Then you say "resolution is not final"

Then you say "900p 30fps just feels better than 60fps and 1080p because its more 'cinematic'"

And now "We did not do that thing we said we did, please buy our game"?



Jesus christ Ubi.
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Old 10-09-2014, 08:40 PM   #3645
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Xbox One, they've said there's nothing technically limiting it from outputting 4K, there's no reason to disbelieve that; the hardware likely supports that resolution; that's not hard to do. Sony might, or might be able to with an update, but has been quiet about any 4K support other than for games (where it explicitly says it doesn't).

As always the game itself will render at whatever resolution the devs decide and then it'll be scaled up to the actual resolution of the output. Neither console has the power to render complex games natively in 4K, so in either case it'll either be upscaled output or games with trivial graphics.

Neither support HDMI 2.0 at this point so 4K at 60fps is out for both unless they can update through firmware (which I read somewhere Sony says they could do).

Where 4K support would actually matter is in content. There's no 4K standard for Blu-ray so who knows if they'll be able to support it. Netflix and similar streaming, both should be able to do it from a CPU/GPU point of view, and Xbox One says they support the resolution so should be able to do it, and I'd be really surprised if PS4 couldn't as well.

Though it is a bit surprising that neither have come out with 4K streaming support for Netflix, so maybe neither can actually do it at all.
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Remember this guy and his 4k claims? Or Kinect for that matter. I don't he's been back since.


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XBOX ONE is 4k ready! Even the HDMI cable that comes with it is 4k rated. PS4 will only do pics 4k.

Kinect comes in the box with every XBOX One. Almost every game made for Xbox One will use the Kinect in one form or another.

Mark my words. You will want one.


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Pretty sure he meant it, he has 3 posts and all of them are in this thread and about how great a Microsoft product is.
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Yeah the guy works for Microsoft (a quick search of his CP username brings up his linked in profile) so I wouldn't expect an un-biased view point from him in this thread.
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Old 10-10-2014, 05:02 AM   #3647
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Remember this guy and his 4k claims? Or Kinect for that matter. I don't he's been back since.
This whole thread has pretty much established that the only people who unequivocally and passionately support Xbox One are people who work for Microsoft.
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:42 AM   #3648
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Still getting Dragon Age on PC, but shots fired!

https://twitter.com/dragonage/status/520628704616407040

Confirmed: #DAI resolution is 1080p on PS4, and 900p on Xbox One. We maximized the current potential of each platform.
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Old 10-10-2014, 01:18 PM   #3649
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Still getting Dragon Age on PC, but shots fired!

https://twitter.com/dragonage/status/520628704616407040

Confirmed: #DAI resolution is 1080p on PS4, and 900p on Xbox One. We maximized the current potential of each platform.
at least they didn't beat around the bush like Ubi...guess they weren't paid off
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at least they didn't beat around the bush like Ubi...guess they weren't paid off
Don't get too smug, when Xbone gets the 4k patch for Dragon Age we will see who has the last laugh
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This whole thread has pretty much established that the only people who unequivocally and passionately support Xbox One are people who work for Microsoft.
your opinion is based upon a gpu difference? I don't get the hurt.

it is actually ok to favour the feature set or games on one platform or the other (or even both or neither) without being an employee.

I guess m$ and Sony should stop competing now.
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Microsoft also said they would never sell the system without Kinect - Change in direction and focus, required an update to be a fully optional component. Beta (pre-release) units wouldn't work without it, public units at launch would work...ish, but not great. I remember testing the dogfood for the Xbox One OS where we started testing sans Kinect to make sure stuff wasn't broken.
Always online - Was required initially, programmed out before launch due to public pressure.
No Problems getting games to 1080p - Forza didn't have any problem. Developers not getting their games to 1080p is their own problem. PS4 has a few games under 1080p as well, so what?
DX 12 giving a big boost to performance - DX12 hasn't been released yet; it's literally a year away. I don't see how this is even relevant.
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Microsoft said a lot of things, why would anyone buy the 4k crap

Honestly I have the thing and its not a bad system...they are just full of ####
Reading your post, pot meet kettle. I mean, I'm honestly not sure what your point is. Things like Xbox not working without Kinect or being always online are software controlled, and if you change the software, you can change those requirements. What, were you expecting that it was a physical, on-chip limitation? Do you think if something isn't working or getting the desired results that it shouldn't be changed?

As already stated, there is nothing from a technical perspective that keeps the consoles from hitting 4K resolutions. I don't own a 4K TV so it really doesn't matter to me. I'm just calling out your falsehoods and BS arguments.
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Old 10-11-2014, 07:45 AM   #3653
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your opinion is based upon a gpu difference? I don't get the hurt.

it is actually ok to favour the feature set or games on one platform or the other (or even both or neither) without being an employee.

I guess m$ and Sony should stop competing now.
What?

I was just making a funny observation that the Xbox fanboys in the thread are Microsoft employees while the people who like Sony or PC or even Nintendo are just regular gamers. Not sure what your post was about.
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What?

I was just making a funny observation that the Xbox fanboys in the thread are Microsoft employees while the people who like Sony or PC or even Nintendo are just regular gamers. Not sure what your post was about.
I like PC, Xbox, and my PS (albeit to a lesser degree because I can't do nearly as much with it). It's just tiring to hear utter falsehoods thrown around like they mean anything.

And if anyone is REALLY concerned about 1080p vs 900p, here you go: http://imgur.com/a/wEXx4#0
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And if anyone is REALLY concerned about 1080p vs 900p, here you go: http://imgur.com/a/wEXx4#0
Well that settles it. Lol.
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And if anyone is REALLY concerned about 1080p vs 900p, here you go: http://imgur.com/a/wEXx4#0
Doesn't imgur compress the crap out of images into a smeary mess?

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Reading your post, pot meet kettle. I mean, I'm honestly not sure what your point is. Things like Xbox not working without Kinect or being always online are software controlled, and if you change the software, you can change those requirements. What, were you expecting that it was a physical, on-chip limitation? Do you think if something isn't working or getting the desired results that it shouldn't be changed?

As already stated, there is nothing from a technical perspective that keeps the consoles from hitting 4K resolutions. I don't own a 4K TV so it really doesn't matter to me. I'm just calling out your falsehoods and BS arguments.
Was just listing all the things microsoft did a total 180 on pointing out there is no reason to believe anything they say based on the track record

Earlier this week Spencer himself said DX12 won't be a major boost for games so yeah that is confirmed.

Every multiplat game is either equal to or higher resolution on PS4
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What?

I was just making a funny observation that the Xbox fanboys in the thread are Microsoft employees while the people who like Sony or PC or even Nintendo are just regular gamers. Not sure what your post was about.
oops! sorry, whoosh on me; so people who like the feature set on the xbox are employees, and people who like the feature set on other platforms are regular gamers (without agenda as an employee would have).

do you see the irony in your post?

and to be transparent, i have an xbox 1 and i am grateful to the ps4; without the ps4, i have my doubts that the xbox 1 as we now know it would even exist. i don't think that m$ would have as invested as they have to bring new and expected features forward so quickly.
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Doesn't imgur compress the crap out of images into a smeary mess?

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Yeah imgur has had awful re-compression issues for years. Use Minus if you are uploading comparison PNGs, since it allows gigantic files with no re-compression.

Also lol comparison JPEGs.
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http://venturebeat.com/2014/10/13/xbox-one-outsold-ps4/

The Xbox One sold better than the PlayStation 4 in September, according to Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter. He is estimating that Microsoft sold 325,000 new Xbox Ones at U.S. retailers last month while Sony sold 250,000 PS4s. This is notable because Sony’s system has sold better than Microsoft’s in nearly every month since each gaming device launched in November.

These Wedbush numbers are just a prediction, and we should learn if they are accurate this Thursday when industry-tracking firm The NPD Group reveals its sales data for the month of September. If they do hold out, it’s pretty clear how Xbox One bested the PS4 despite Sony’s momentum and Destiny: Microsoft made an appeal to gamers’ wallets.

“From Sept. 7 through [Sept.] 13, Microsoft offered a free game with the purchase of a new Xbox One at participating retailers,” said Pachter.
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