04-13-2015, 05:11 PM
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#1261
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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If it were me, I'd trade up in the 2nd to nab Nikita Korostelev at the earliest moment possible. Big hard working skater with a bullet of a shot and a natural RW. to me that's precisely the thing the Flames should target but I know they're going BPA. But like I said, if it were me....
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04-13-2015, 05:14 PM
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#1262
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Lethbridge
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Given the quality of players that will be available in the 2nd round, I'd be surprised if the Flames gave up a 2nd rounder to move up. Quantity of picks has a quality of its own.
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04-13-2015, 05:17 PM
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#1263
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by automaton 3
Given the quality of players that will be available in the 2nd round, I'd be surprised if the Flames gave up a 2nd rounder to move up. Quantity of picks has a quality of its own.
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Agree with this. Depending on how the 1st round plays out I would even be in favour for trading down a few spots
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04-13-2015, 05:57 PM
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#1264
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Honestly, the depth is so good this year in the draft that it wouldn't be beneficial to trade up. It would be like trading Granlund and Wotherspoon for Klimchuk.
Klimchuk is a better prospect but it's marginal.
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04-13-2015, 08:04 PM
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#1265
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A Fiddler Crab
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
In my opinion, we trade the picks.
You build your contender (roughly speaking) around a legit #1C, #1D and a #1G.
We have a #1C and a #1D. Our 2nd line and 2nd D-pair are great too. Our depth on our other lines is evident. What are we missing?
I think we should swing for the fences and put together a package of picks/prospects/players for a legit #1G.
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I would agree with this if we were in a situation where we had made at least the second round of the playoffs in consecutive years. I really don't think now is the time to "swing for the fences" so many players on the flames are young, so many had career years I think it would be extremely shortsighted to trade futures for the present right now.
Use the picks, maybe even trade down in the first to pick up another second round pick if we think we can get our guys a little lower, stuff the cupboards as full as possible and see where we are in a couple of years.
Haven't seen him play, but from what I've read I really like the idea of getting Jeremy Roy in the first. I've seen him ranked as low as the mid-to-late 20's. I think having Hickey and Roy as smooth-skating d prospects would be awesome.
One thing I've noticed is that opposing team broadcasts, which I always try to watch talk a lot about how we are a fast team. LA in particular was going on about how that feeds into our huge advantage in PP to PK numbers. I hope that the team continues to focus on this and in general opts for guys who are 5'11" to 6'2" and wicked fast over looking for 6'2"+ players to build our team size at the expense of speed.
I think the Chicago model of a team fits our personel better than the LA model does.
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04-14-2015, 08:03 AM
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#1266
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Conroy is going to the U18s, says he is looking forward to seeing 4 or 5 European players that they like but hasn't seen personally yet.
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04-14-2015, 09:09 PM
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#1267
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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THW’s War Room Rankings – April Edition - Top 120
Excerpt:
On NHL-CS segregated rankings...
Quote:
The four lists make the job easier for Central Scouting but they are limited in terms of where a respective prospect ranks across the lists. Therefore, each year I combine the four lists into one to obtain a better understanding of where Central Scouting is ranking the players overall.
In addition to NHL Central Scouting’s Combined Final Rankings, included on this massive 2015 NHL Draft spreadsheet are the War Room Rankings, which include:
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- E-Mac’s Top 120
- Plus, the next 60 prospects noted as potential 5th and 6th rounders
- Finally, the last section is The Others, where other notable draft eligible prospects are highlighted
- This is your quintessential 2015 NHL Draft resource.
Link to main article: click here.
Related Reading:
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04-14-2015, 09:15 PM
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#1268
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Lifetime Suspension
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But Alberta likes black and blue hockey....
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04-14-2015, 11:39 PM
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#1269
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
After the teens I think the depth is too good to draft two 2nds for another 1st. Unless the Flames really like a player I don't see the point.
Now if the Flames trade their 1st and a 2nd to move into the top ten and get Provorov, I'm all game!
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Agreed with this. Would even trade #15 and the Caps 2nd and 3rd rounder to move in the top 10 to draft Provorov
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04-18-2015, 11:58 AM
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#1270
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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On Draft Lottery Day, while the Flames not taking part (gladly!) another profile - one that should be in Flames' wheelhouse - another lad where I'm unusually not worried about the Russian Factor:
Next Generation Russian Rocket, Soviet Sniper Evgeny Svechnikov
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04-18-2015, 07:34 PM
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#1271
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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My attempt at a mock draft for the non-playoff teams
1. Edmonton - McDavid
2. Buffalo - Eichel
3. Phoenix - really need a C and have some young D prospects in waiting so go with Strome.
4. Toronto - Marner seems a lot like Nylander, most likely go with Hanifin, but really need C depth in prospect group
5. Carolina - if Marner is there seems like no brainer, have Fleury in system but could still use some D prospects
6. New Jersey - have a ton of young D. need elite forward prospects. Rantanen who can play all 3 forward positions
7. Philly - also have a great group of young D in Morin, Sanheim and Gostisbehere, more likely they go forward. Barzal
8. Blue Jackets - thin in the pipeline on D prospects so likely they take a d-man, Provorov who helps soften the blow of losing Mike Reilly
9. San Jose - could take any position. Takes Harkins because he is a 2 way center with upside
10. Avalanche - could use an elite D prospect but starting to get thinner in the top 6 ranks. Werenski
11. Florida - Takes the power forward Meier to play RW down the road
12. Dallas - Takes Crouse. Safe pick in that he will be a NHLer, but some scouts think he has the potential to be an elite power forward
13. LA - Thomas Chabot. Low on quality D-prospects and Chabot is a great all around D prospect
14. Boston - Yevgeni Svechnikov - large body Russian winger that one day they hope can help replace Lucic
Won't put my pick in for Calgary until I know what spot they are actually picking in.
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04-18-2015, 08:14 PM
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#1272
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: B.C.
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I'd be satisfied with Thomas Chabot.
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04-19-2015, 12:05 PM
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#1273
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Draft Pick
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
3. Phoenix - really need a C and have some young D prospects in waiting so go with Strome.
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My guess is that Yotes will keep the Knights' trio intact so they would grab Marner instead. Together with Domi and Dvorak they work magic. The comfort of developing team's top-3 forward prospects playing together as one formation right from junior doesn't happen very often.
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04-19-2015, 12:40 PM
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#1274
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
My attempt at a mock draft for the non-playoff teams
1. Edmonton - McDavid
2. Buffalo - Eichel
3. Phoenix - really need a C and have some young D prospects in waiting so go with Strome.
4. Toronto - Marner seems a lot like Nylander, most likely go with Hanifin, but really need C depth in prospect group
5. Carolina - if Marner is there seems like no brainer, have Fleury in system but could still use some D prospects
6. New Jersey - have a ton of young D. need elite forward prospects. Rantanen who can play all 3 forward positions
7. Philly - also have a great group of young D in Morin, Sanheim and Gostisbehere, more likely they go forward. Barzal
8. Blue Jackets - thin in the pipeline on D prospects so likely they take a d-man, Provorov who helps soften the blow of losing Mike Reilly
9. San Jose - could take any position. Takes Harkins because he is a 2 way center with upside
10. Avalanche - could use an elite D prospect but starting to get thinner in the top 6 ranks. Werenski
11. Florida - Takes the power forward Meier to play RW down the road
12. Dallas - Takes Crouse. Safe pick in that he will be a NHLer, but some scouts think he has the potential to be an elite power forward
13. LA - Thomas Chabot. Low on quality D-prospects and Chabot is a great all around D prospect
14. Boston - Yevgeni Svechnikov - large body Russian winger that one day they hope can help replace Lucic
Won't put my pick in for Calgary until I know what spot they are actually picking in.
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15. Calgary - Pavel Zacha would be unreal!
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04-19-2015, 12:49 PM
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#1275
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Yeah, I don't know how the Flames pass on one of Kylington or Zacha if they fall to them.
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04-19-2015, 12:51 PM
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#1276
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Yeah, I don't know how the Flames pass on one of Kylington or Zacha if they fall to them.
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I wouldn't want Kylington anymore. Who's the last player who fell that hard in the months leading up to the draft and still became a huge success afterwards? Would rather take a riser.
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04-19-2015, 12:55 PM
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#1277
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
I wouldn't want Kylington anymore. Who's the last player who fell that hard in the months leading up to the draft and still became a huge success afterwards? Would rather take a riser.
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CHL or College players? Tons. Euro's? Not sure there's a significant relevance.
Want to know why I think he slipped? Didn't play in the WJC and the NA media scouts didn't get a good look at him.
EDIT: And it would not surprise me in the least if Kylington went higher in the draft.
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04-27-2015, 02:25 AM
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#1278
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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If Calgary is picking at 15, the player that is conditionally #1 on my list is Daniel Sprong.
Right Shooting right winger that would be a top 5 pick if it wasn't for off ice issues.
One of the Flames scouts is an owner of his junior team, so he would be very very familiar with him. Mason McDonald is also on that team.
If his off ice stuff is overblown, I would be shocked if the Flames passed on him as they have no other right shooting right wingers in the organization and he's as skilled as a player like Bennett, he's really that good. If he's on the board and they go elsewhere, you know there is something wrong there.
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04-27-2015, 08:11 AM
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#1279
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: PEI
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I though that we could not pick until 23 now, because we are in the 2nd round.
1-14 non playoff teams.
15 - 22 First round losers.
23- 26 Second round losers
27 & 28 Third Round losers
29 SCF loser
30 Cup winner.
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04-27-2015, 08:15 AM
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#1280
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by King Theo
I though that we could not pick until 23 now, because we are in the 2nd round.
1-14 non playoff teams.
15 - 22 First round losers.
23- 26 Second round losers
27 & 28 Third Round losers
29 SCF loser
30 Cup winner.
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Don't think that happens until you make the conference finals. If we lose to the Ducks we keep 15th
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