Kim Jong Un's half brother murdered

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack

there's a good chance that similar to Iocane, you can slowly build up your tolerance to VX over years of exposure.

Believe it or not, I was going to look this up and then I thought that the idea was inconceivable

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

You would only need to successfully mix a drop worth to be fatal. I do doubt the Malaysian's investigative abilities. Makes you wonder why they didn't just shank him in the airport rather than go through all the trouble of making a chemical weapon.

"His brother's Kim Jong-Un" feels like a good catch all explanation for any weirdness.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

yeah, that makes sense but now it just feels like we're moving into the overly complex murder plot where way too many things can go wrong.

As it stands even using VX as a murder weapon can only be traced back to a few countries.

China certainly has it, but I don't see the end game of killing Nam for them

Cuba certainly has it and has used it in the past in Angola but they have no reason to use it

Egypt has it and supposedly still makes it But again what's their skin in the game

Iran I thought had it, but are more focused on basic chemical weapons.

Israel has chemical weapons, but their nerve agent of choice is basic Sarin

North Korea almost certainly has it as chemical weapons are like a cheap nuke.

Russia has destroyed most of their chemical arsenal as has the US.

Syria has been proven to have VX gas but again why would they kill Nam?

The US declared that their chemical arsenal was destroyed back in the 90's I believe.

....so it was North Korea?

[LChoy]

Thought this was a neat article

The US is considering a direct strike against North Korea — here’s how it would go down
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-u...h-korea-2017-3

1. Decision to strike
2. Stealth blitz on nuclear facilities, air defence, and launching capabilities
3. Limit retaliation
4. Underwater warfare
5. Take out Leadership
6. defend DMZ
7. Special Forces missions to hunt remaining nuclear targets and offensive capabilities


Only thing the article doesn't mention though is how China would act in this situation. They would lose their buffer and they would be on the hook to take in millions of North Koreans that don't go South.
Also the truly fanatical North Koreans still in the fight may resort to Guerrilla/Terrorist tactics once the war is over, not only in North Korea, but in the South, and in other countries that their secret units may have been deployed.

[CaptainCrunch]

China probably wouldn't be really happy about that kind of action.

They like North Korea just the way it is.

If they didn't they would have taken out the dynastic succession there a long time ago.

They don't want the West right on their Southern Border with really close air fields and naval bases.

They also like the idea that North Korea does crazy things because it takes the attention away from China's military upgrading programs.

Plus North Korea is a boon of good public relations for China. Don't worry about it we'll take care of the crazy Kims.

But I doubt that China would be interested in a shooting war against the Americans. It would be more along the lines of worthlessly screaming to the UN just to scream at the UN, and ratchet up some economic pressure on the US.

[CaptainCrunch]

You'd also have to add on that you'd need to completely take out NK's non nuclear artillary capability since they have massive amounts of guns and rockets aimed at the center of Seoul.



Its likely that the moment the first strike happened by the US Seoul would get hit with a massive time on target barrage.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Lchoy

Thought this was a neat article

1. Decision to strike
2. Stealth blitz on nuclear facilities, air defence, and launching capabilities
3. Limit retaliation
4. Underwater warfare
5. Take out Leadership
6. defend DMZ
7. Special Forces missions to hunt remaining nuclear targets and offensive capabilities

Uh, then what? Let China run it? Give the problem to South Korea?

I don't think anyone has ever thought it would be a challenge to take out North Korean leadership. The hard part is the aftermath.

[CaptainCrunch]

Also want to add, that even with a Chinese faction and a Kim faction, that the North Korean Military leaders have no illusions of a post Kim Korea being all that healthy for them, so they'll probably fight pretty hard.

To add to the artillery stuff above, we know that NK beyond have rudimentary nukes, has massive stockpiles of chemical weapons. Probably some of them stockpiled in their hardened artillery sites.

If you're going to attack NK in any way, you have to probably be prepared to trade Seoul and a lot of Northern South Korea for it.