02-21-2017, 05:41 PM
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#2041
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Last edited by TheScorpion; 02-21-2017 at 05:47 PM.
Reason: it wasn't even that funny now that i think about it
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02-21-2017, 06:10 PM
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#2042
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Eric Francis, I'm so sorry.
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That mistake is not on you at all, because what kind of crazy general manager backloads a contract like that?
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02-21-2017, 07:01 PM
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#2043
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Delete your account
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Look in the mirror bro. You're much worse than Scorpion and I'd much rather you delete your account and spare us
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02-21-2017, 07:06 PM
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#2044
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Realtor®
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Calgary
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Ryan Leslie just said that there is more than 1 team VERY interested in Dennis Wideman.
I have never thought he would have any inside track so perhaps he is taking it from somewhere else or trying to pump Wideman's stock for the flames if by some chance some other GM hears it.
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02-21-2017, 07:09 PM
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#2045
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Leslie drops a bomb...lol....that is the first time i have heard anyone in the media claim there is interest in Wideman ....hopefully some truth to it and DW is willing to go to that team
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02-21-2017, 07:11 PM
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#2046
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#1 Goaltender
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i have reason to believe Scorpian has inside info, but didnt want to reveal a source...instead he made up a guy in a restraunt story.
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02-21-2017, 07:13 PM
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#2047
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Leslie drops a bomb...lol....that is the first time i have heard anyone in the media claim there is interest in Wideman ....hopefully some truth to it and DW is willing to go to that team
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Have you ever heard of any teams having interest over the years? Seems like we have been hearing for years about the lack of interest.
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02-21-2017, 07:15 PM
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#2048
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Have you ever heard of any teams having interest over the years? Seems like we have been hearing for years about the lack of interest.
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Wasn't it alleged that the Flames were close to working out a deal to trade Wideman last year and Treliving was upset that he couldn't trade him due to the suspension.
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02-21-2017, 07:16 PM
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#2049
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Have you ever heard of any teams having interest over the years? Seems like we have been hearing for years about the lack of interest.
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I think there was a mention of some interest right before "The Incident". Can't recall the details.
Edit: ^ Yeah, so I'm not crazy. Phew.
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02-21-2017, 07:19 PM
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#2050
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#1 Goaltender
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The scorpian said, now leslie said it. I bet Wideman goes and jokipakka stays. that frees up enuf salary to go after iggy.
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02-21-2017, 07:21 PM
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#2051
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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I remember his name being 'out there' from time to time but it always seemed as the flea were sellers without buyers.
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02-21-2017, 07:33 PM
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#2052
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GullFoss
The scorpian said, now leslie said it. I bet Wideman goes and jokipakka stays. that frees up enuf salary to go after iggy.
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He have enough cap space for 2 Iginla's, but none is more than enough
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02-21-2017, 07:42 PM
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#2053
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
He have enough cap space for 2 Iginla's
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They do?
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02-21-2017, 07:44 PM
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#2054
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
They do?
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Think so, but never sure exactly how LTIR works. Iginla has just under 1.4 left in the season on his cap hit, Flames have over 2.8 with LTIR space. More once you jettison one of the 23man roster to make room.
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02-21-2017, 07:45 PM
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#2055
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
They do?
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Pretty sure, they have about 2.85 million in LTIR space according to capfriendly and Iginla would be about $1.1 million at this time of the year.
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02-21-2017, 07:47 PM
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#2056
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Think so, but never sure exactly how LTIR works. Iginla has just under 1.4 left in the season on his cap hit, Flames have over 2.8 with LTIR space. More once you jettison one of the 23man roster to make room.
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LTIR doesn't get prorated over time.
Look at the projected deadline space on capfriendly. That is the full season cap hit the Flames can add.
They can only add a $2.8 mil full season cap hit player at the deadline without moving salary out or salary being moved out.
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02-21-2017, 07:55 PM
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#2057
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
LTIR doesn't get prorated over time.
Look at the projected deadline space on capfriendly. That is the full season cap hit the Flames can add.
They can only add a $2.8 mil full season cap hit player at the deadline without moving salary out or salary being moved out.
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Yet when you look at their daily cap tracker, they are showing only about a 550k increase when Stone was added.
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02-21-2017, 07:56 PM
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#2058
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Here is a better explanation:
http://www.broadstreethockey.com/201...ve-is-not-good
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Everyone knows Chris Pronger is never going to play again, so the Flyers have been, and will continue to rely on LTIR to get the cap relief they need to replace him. However, many fans mistakenly think LTIR just makes the cap hit disappear; or at worst, that it allows the team to exceed the ceiling, for effectively the same result.
That's not the case. When it comes down to it LTIR is bad. It has negative ramifications and if you don't have to use it, you shouldn't.
For the sake of keeping this piece short and sweet, I'll keep the discussion at a really high level. The salary cap is calculated on a daily basis, not a yearly basis. It's almost as if, every day the Flyers are given a chunk of money to use to pay their players for that day. If they don't use it all, they can pocket the difference, and use it later.
The simplest example of this is to think about it from a yearly cap space perspective. If you have $1 million in cap space. Once you are 50% of the way through the season, you can acquire a $2 million player. You can afford their $2 million daily cap hit because you only have to pay it for 50% of the season, and you've been saving up a little bit of a time for that first half of the season.
The Flyers however, do use all of that daily money. In fact, they use even more. LTIR allows them to spend even more than that daily allowed sum. The difference with LTIR though, is that if a team doesn't use all of their possible LTIR, they don't get to pocket the difference.
The end result is that a team will never be able to have buying power exceeding the cap hit of the player(s) on LTIR. Whereas a team that is truly under the salary cap can get more for their money later in the season.
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02-21-2017, 08:38 PM
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#2059
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Franchise Player
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Oops
Last edited by bubbsy; 02-21-2017 at 08:38 PM.
Reason: Wrong thread
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02-21-2017, 09:39 PM
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#2060
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
LTIR doesn't get prorated over time.
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That's what I thought, but I was having trouble tracking down a reference. The CBA's language on LTIR is extraordinarily foggy and confusing, and the examples only make it worse.
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