Flames to announce plans to announce arena plans in the... future...

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

City Hall should give the 200 Mil for the useless downtown library to the Flames instead. Money better spent on an entertainment megaplex arena.

No.

[powderjunkie]

Arena discussions seem to bring out the dumbest in everyone, especially related to tax dollars.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

City Hall should give the 200 Mil for the useless downtown library to the Flames instead. Money better spent on an entertainment megaplex arena.

WOW. Even a Neanderthal such as myself felt this post deserved wow.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

City Hall should give the 200 Mil for the useless downtown library to the Flames instead. Money better spent on an entertainment megaplex arena.

Maybe we could take all the books that would have gone in the library and light them on fire in Olympic Plaza. Think of the symbolism.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Arena discussions seem to bring out the dumbest in everyone, especially related to tax dollars.

Government spending is a huge, complex and multi-leveled issue.

Message boards on the internet are about single-sentence statements. They are always going to sound stupid because there isn't room to explain opinions. Doesn't mean they are (though some are, sure).

But before you call people stupid, try to understand what's behind what they are saying.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Maybe we could take all the books that would have gone in the library and light them on fire in Olympic Plaza. Think of the symbolism.

Why stop at the library? There's a concert hall and a few art galleries that can be torn down to make room for an arena.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Government spending is a huge, complex and multi-leveled issue.

Message boards on the internet are about single-sentence statements. They are always going to sound stupid because there isn't room to explain opinions. Doesn't mean they are (though some are, sure).

But before you call people stupid, try to understand what's behind what they are saying.

What??? People choose to reply with one sentence statements, there's unlimited room to explain opinions if so desired. I'm trying to sound cordial here, but what the hell was that? lol

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by flameswin

What??? People choose to reply with one sentence statements, there's unlimited room to explain opinions if so desired. I'm trying to sound cordial here, but what the hell was that? lol

Yes, because there's nothing internet posters like more than reading long posts.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Yes, because there's nothing internet posters like more than reading long posts.

Oh please, plenty of long, well thought out posts get read. Textcritic writes novels for posts sometimes and routinely receives boatloads of thanks.

People generally read informative, interesting long posts. What people gloss over is the article writing wannabe posts where posters try to stretch one, simple thought into a novel in an attempt to appear smarter than they are, and that happens a lot on here.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by Muta

King is directly involved in the day-to-day planning of this facility. He is working with a team of professionals who are advising him, like any normal project. To my knowledge, he would not have a construction lead at this point, it's too early for that.

If you think King isn't involved, you're mistaken. If you think he is involved but not part of the conceptual programming, you're also mistaken. Ken King IS the client, and at this stage, he's spearheading it. Like he should be. It's his project, he's representing his own clients, and he's who any consultant would directly be working with.

I think you're getting confused with his role during possible construction down the road with the planning stages that are going on now.

Thank you for the information.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Government spending is a huge, complex and multi-leveled issue.

Message boards on the internet are about single-sentence statements. They are always going to sound stupid because there isn't room to explain opinions. Doesn't mean they are (though some are, sure).

But before you call people stupid, try to understand what's behind what they are saying.

People could support their ill-informed opinions as much as they want...it won't make them any less stupid.

I agree they are huge, complex issues - with lots of grey area. Taking a black or white opinion and treating the issue like it is in a vacuum is stupid.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Tyler

And if tax dollars are used, then what? Are you going to protest? Stand at City Hall with a sandwich board and demand answers?

Does anyone protest anything about tax dollars in person in this city or is this just typical message board rabble rousing?

Calgarians protest tax spending by electing doofuses like Sean Chu, from what I can tell.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by SebC

Calgarians protest tax spending by electing doofuses like Sean Chu, from what I can tell.

This is an excellent reason to stop then

[Schraderbrau]

I hate to complain bout our useless rink but I am going to once again. Going to the games and having to deal with the crap overpriced joke of a parking lot, the shoulder to shoulder concourse and the unacceptable 100 meter long lines for wash rooms and concessions makes it almost not worth being a season ticket holder anymore. We are to good of a city and to loyal a fan bases to be forced to deal with the joke of the dome. We deserve much better. Even the commish of the NHL admitted our rink is an absolute embarrassment when he was on the radio the other day.

Have some class as an organization Flames and do away with our slum home. We are to good if a city and a franchise to put up with that joke of a rink. It's embarrassing.

[Zevo]

Originally Posted by Schraderbrau

I hate to complain bout our useless rink but I am going to once again. Going to the games and having to deal with the crap overpriced joke of a parking lot, the shoulder to shoulder concourse and the unacceptable 100 meter long lines for wash rooms and concessions makes it almost not worth being a season ticket holder anymore. We are to good of a city and to loyal a fan bases to be forced to deal with the joke of the dome. We deserve much better. Even the commish of the NHL admitted our rink is an absolute embarrassment when he was on the radio the other day.

Have some class as an organization Flames and do away with our slum home. We are to good if a city and a franchise to put up with that joke of a rink. It's embarrassing.

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[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Schraderbrau

I hate to complain bout our useless rink but I am going to once again. Going to the games and having to deal with the crap overpriced joke of a parking lot, the shoulder to shoulder concourse and the unacceptable 100 meter long lines for wash rooms and concessions makes it almost not worth being a season ticket holder anymore. We are to good of a city and to loyal a fan bases to be forced to deal with the joke of the dome. We deserve much better. Even the commish of the NHL admitted our rink is an absolute embarrassment when he was on the radio the other day.

Have some class as an organization Flames and do away with our slum home. We are to good if a city and a franchise to put up with that joke of a rink. It's embarrassing.

The city better be prepared to folk over some money towards building the world class facility it deserves then.

There's going to be a fair amount of opposition to any funds being provided to the project - as to be expected - but I honestly believe that in the end, some money is going to go towards it. It's something that will benefit the city's economy and eliminates that need for the city to build a facility of that stature for themselves down the road. And there's opposition for any major project that a lot of money is invested into. The SW Ring Road is getting some, and the goddamn Peace Bridge debate still gets debated about.

You want nice things in your city? You're gonna have to pay for it, even if it isn't operated by the city itself in some cases like arenas/stadiums. That's the standard that's been establish, and it's not gonna change anytime soon.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by Schraderbrau

I hate to complain bout our useless rink but I am going to once again. Going to the games and having to deal with the crap overpriced joke of a parking lot, the shoulder to shoulder concourse and the unacceptable 100 meter long lines for wash rooms and concessions makes it almost not worth being a season ticket holder anymore. We are to good of a city and to loyal a fan bases to be forced to deal with the joke of the dome. We deserve much better. Even the commish of the NHL admitted our rink is an absolute embarrassment when he was on the radio the other day.

Have some class as an organization Flames and do away with our slum home. We are to good if a city and a franchise to put up with that joke of a rink. It's embarrassing.

What's parking these days? $15 or $20? Either way it was $50 at Bruins games so it could be worse.

I hate this "we deserve a new rink" attitude some posters have. Only 30 cities in the world have NHL teams and we're one of them. Some people just aren't grateful for what we have. Yes the washrooms suck but boohoo. First world problems. If it really means that much to you, stay home.

How about we just enjoy the fact that we have an NHL team? We all know a new building is coming eventually, so relax.

[Schraderbrau]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

What's parking these days? $15 or $20? Either way it was $50 at Bruins games so it could be worse.

I hate this "we deserve a new rink" attitude some posters have. Only 30 cities in the world have NHL teams and we're one of them. Some people just aren't grateful for what we have. Yes the washrooms suck but boohoo. First world problems. If it really means that much to you, stay home.

How about we just enjoy the fact that we have an NHL team? We all know a new building is coming eventually, so relax.

I hate the attitudes that we should just be great full. We pay a fortune for our tickets and we are supposed to be a world class city. It's time we got rewarded for what we pay and shown that we are a world class city. If you can't admit that the dome is beneath our cities standards then you are crazy.

[saillias]

Then send an e-mail to your aldermen ffs. The majority of the public feedback they get is moms and old people complaining about kids in their neighborhood.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Schraderbrau

I hate to complain bout our useless rink but I am going to once again. Going to the games and having to deal with the crap overpriced joke of a parking lot, the shoulder to shoulder concourse and the unacceptable 100 meter long lines for wash rooms and concessions makes it almost not worth being a season ticket holder anymore. We are to good of a city and to loyal a fan bases to be forced to deal with the joke of the dome. We deserve much better. Even the commish of the NHL admitted our rink is an absolute embarrassment when he was on the radio the other day.

Have some class as an organization Flames and do away with our slum home. We are to good if a city and a franchise to put up with that joke of a rink. It's embarrassing.

I assume your willing to pay 5-10k for a seat license for each of your seats to offset the cost of a new arena?