03-25-2017, 09:45 AM
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#61
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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So is this guy kind of what we thought/hoped pat sieloff would be ?
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03-25-2017, 09:51 AM
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#62
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Open-ice hitting has almost disappeared from the game. Players are just too fast and aware, and the consequences of a defenceman taking himself out of position too severe. I'm all for a big hit when the stars align and it happens. But a young defenceman better bring a lot more than that to his game if he's going to make it in the NHL.
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The 2nd part is definitely true about being caught out of position, but if you're smart about it you can still hit guys in the open ice. In fact it should be easier now since everyone backs far off , just no one really does it any more (the Sarich hit on Marleau in the playoffs ages ago and then guys like Kronwall and Gudas still do it now).
I'd like to see someone step up on a guy like McDavid every once in a while before he gets started. No matter how far you back off, he's still going to be faster than you so the odd shot before he gets moving should be an option.
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03-25-2017, 09:57 AM
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#63
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Mass_nerder
So is this guy kind of what we thought/hoped pat sieloff would be ?
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And even if he isn't we didn't waste a second rounder on this guy.
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03-25-2017, 10:00 AM
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#64
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
And even if he isn't we didn't waste a second rounder on this guy.
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Sieloff wasn't a wasted draft pick. He was well scouted and ranked, made the US WJC team right after the draft, was a monster when he joined the OHL but then ran into a lot of injury trouble and bad luck.
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03-25-2017, 10:03 AM
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#65
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Bingo
Sieloff wasn't a wasted draft pick. He was well scouted and ranked, made the US WJC team right after the draft, was a monster when he joined the OHL but then ran into a lot of injury trouble and bad luck.
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Not the thread for the debate, but he put up next to no points in junior. A very good sign you don't have the puck skills to cut it in the pro game. Sure we'll never know what would have happened without the injuries but a second round pick should have more than 11 points just by default.
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03-25-2017, 10:07 AM
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#66
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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A crystal ball that sees 4 years into the future would make the draft pretty easy.
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03-25-2017, 10:15 AM
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#67
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Not the thread for the debate, but he put up next to no points in junior. A very good sign you don't have the puck skills to cut it in the pro game. Sure we'll never know what would have happened without the injuries but a second round pick should have more than 11 points just by default.
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I don't look up points when assessing a draft pick.
He made the US world junior team and played every game, that's top six for one of the big 6 countries.
He was heading for 4-6 role in the pros before getting sidetracked.
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03-25-2017, 10:18 AM
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#68
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Another D prospect to throw on the pile of D prospects I guess.
I wonder if BT plans on cutting loose some of our upcoming RFA D prospects?
Namely:
Wotherspoon - 24 now, 6 years removed from draft, multiple call ups over multiple seasons and just can't stick
Culkin - 23 now, 5 years removed from draft, just can't stay healthy
Morrison - 25 now, hasn't even really come close to getting a call up during his 2 year ELC
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03-25-2017, 10:20 AM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Culkin and Morrison for sure are cut loose IMO
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03-25-2017, 10:38 AM
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#70
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Another D prospect to throw on the pile of D prospects I guess.
I wonder if BT plans on cutting loose some of our upcoming RFA D prospects?
Namely:
Wotherspoon - 24 now, 6 years removed from draft, multiple call ups over multiple seasons and just can't stick
Culkin - 23 now, 5 years removed from draft, just can't stay healthy
Morrison - 25 now, hasn't even really come close to getting a call up during his 2 year ELC
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Morrison is done for sure. Wouldn't be surprised if the other two are gone as well.
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03-25-2017, 10:56 AM
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#71
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I'd keep.Culkin around a bit longer. Other than that, the d depth listed has been meh.
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03-25-2017, 11:23 AM
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#72
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Franchise Player
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With the pending sale of Adirondack, there's probably less room than before. Wouldn't be surprised if all 3 of Morrison, Culkin and Wotherspoon didn't return.
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03-25-2017, 11:24 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Gaskal
With the pending sale of Adirondack, there's probably less room than before. Wouldn't be surprised if all 3 of Morrison, Culkin and Wotherspoon didn't return.
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Doubtful the Flames will go without an ECHL affiliate of some kind regardless of ownership.
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03-25-2017, 11:24 AM
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#74
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Terrific. Good job, BT.
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03-25-2017, 11:44 AM
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#75
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Doubtful the Flames will go without an ECHL affiliate of some kind regardless of ownership.
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Yeah. I wonder if their plan is to have an ECHL team located further west next season.
There is plenty shuffling of players between Stockton and Adirondack during the season, and that is quite the distance.
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03-25-2017, 11:46 AM
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#76
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Deep South
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I think Wotherspoon is done with the Flames. Based on some of those tweets he sent or liked about recalls it'll be a mutual thing.
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03-25-2017, 12:01 PM
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#77
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Is it wrong to hope that Healey gets McDavid lined up in his crosshairs at some point?
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03-25-2017, 12:09 PM
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#78
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I hope the contract doesn't kick in until next year. Does anyone know how many contracts the Flames have for next year?
Do contracts in the CHL count as well?
Last edited by tsquared1967; 03-25-2017 at 12:13 PM.
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03-25-2017, 12:13 PM
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#79
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Francis's Hairpiece
Is it wrong to hope that Healey gets McDavid lined up in his crosshairs at some point?
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Nothing could be more right.
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03-25-2017, 12:15 PM
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#80
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by tsquared1967
I hope the contract doesn't kick in until next year. Does anyone know how many contracts the Flames have for next year?
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including Healey and assuming Dube gets sent back to junior, they are committed to 31 contracts next season
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Unsigned RFAS:
Bennett
Lazar
Ferland
Rittich
Morrison
Gillies
Vey
Hathaway
Culkin
Kulak
Wotherspoon
and they need to sign or replace these UFAs:
Versteeg
Wideman
Engelland
Stone
Elliott
Johnson
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