[Signing] Jets Re-Sign Dustin Byfuglien $7.6m AAV x 5 years.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I take Gio at $6.75M over Buff at $7.5M. I think Gio won't breakdown as quick when they're older. He does keep himself at tip top shape.

This does make the Gio contract look good from an AAV perspective, but Gio is older.

[thefoss1957]

I gotta say, that Buff, IMO, is one of those incredibly OVERRATED guys, that comes up from time to time.

I am, clearly, a Blackhawk fan, and unlike many other 'Hawk fans, Buff is NOT the player I've regretted most about losing to sal cap issues.

His deficiencies as a D-man...poor lateral mobility, poor judgments on Offensive Blue line decisions, poor discipline at critical times, seem to be still evident.

On the 'Hawks, he was a MUCH BETTER RW than he was at RD, but, even then, it was more his big body on the PP, than any great skill.

Congrats to Buff, on getting the cash...but, I don't feel that this will be money well spent by the Jets.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

I gotta say, that Buff, IMO, is one of those incredibly OVERRATED guys, that comes up from time to time.

I am, clearly, a Blackhawk fan, and unlike many other 'Hawk fans, Buff is NOT the player I've regretted most about losing to sal cap issues.

His deficiencies as a D-man...poor lateral mobility, poor judgments on Offensive Blue line decisions, poor discipline at critical times, seem to be still evident.

On the 'Hawks, he was a MUCH BETTER RW than he was at RD, but, even then, it was more his big body on the PP, than any great skill.

Congrats to Buff, on getting the cash...but, I don't feel that this will be money well spent by the Jets.

Agree to disagree, I guess. His possession metrics tell a much different story

[Flames89]

Originally Posted by nik-

12 Jets players day to day with lower back strain

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[Coach]

Originally Posted by heep223

This does make the Gio contract look good from an AAV perspective, but Gio is older.

Only by two years. I don't think that makes much of a difference, especially when you consider their respective conditioning.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

I gotta say, that Buff, IMO, is one of those incredibly OVERRATED guys, that comes up from time to time.

I am, clearly, a Blackhawk fan, and unlike many other 'Hawk fans, Buff is NOT the player I've regretted most about losing to sal cap issues.

His deficiencies as a D-man...poor lateral mobility, poor judgments on Offensive Blue line decisions, poor discipline at critical times, seem to be still evident.

On the 'Hawks, he was a MUCH BETTER RW than he was at RD, but, even then, it was more his big body on the PP, than any great skill.

Congrats to Buff, on getting the cash...but, I don't feel that this will be money well spent by the Jets.

That might be true but how could the Jets let him walk with nobody to replace him? He definitely has his weaknesses but if you have no way of replacing him, and he fits your contention window, I think you have to sign him. That and he wanted to stay in the Peg.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Good risk for the Jets to take. I am not a huge fan of his, but the 5 year deal taking him to 35 is pretty reasonable.

[Enoch Root]

I voted ye because: the Jets needed to sign him; the term isn't bad; and the Jets needed to sign him.

Makes the Giordano contract look even better IMO.

[Locke]

I say yes. Not a bad contract. Give up dollars instead of term to fit the team's window and the player's window.

Any longer and you're playing roulette with his performance so you sacrifice cash, which is something the team needed to prove that they were willing to do.

[powderjunkie]

WPG has enough solid defencemen that they can let Buff be Buff. Last couple of years will probably hurt, as the average person's metabolism starts slowing down around 30, so if he's had trouble staying in shape to this point...

If they could flip Myers for Hamonic they would save $1.7M, which might help with Trouba. How much is Trouba going to cost?

[killer_carlson]

Myers is a great contract and deal for the Jets. He's locked up for 3 more years at a price point less than his cap hit.

Zero chance he gets traded.

[Huntingwhale]

Pretty good deal for the Jets. The cap hit is about what you'd expect. But the term is great. Elite defenceman actually age pretty well. Buff is a leader on and off the ice and the Jets are a better team with him.

Overall, solid deal for both sides.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Myers is a great contract and deal for the Jets. He's locked up for 3 more years at a price point less than his cap hit.

Zero chance he gets traded.

I don't disagree, but Hamonic is on an even better deal for 1 year longer, and everyone's seemed concerned about their ability to re-sign Trouba (which I don't really understand now that I've looked more at their situation). Obviously just a hypothetical, but would you rather have Trouba and Hamonic, or Myers and some cap space to attract UFA's to that bustling metropolis?

Hamilton, Faulk, Larsson, OEL are recent 21 yo RFA signings, and all were between 4-6. Karlsson and Pietrangelo came in at 6.5 a few years ago.

Stafford (4.35) and Pavelec (3.9) are the only other guys at relevant money without a NTC, so if you need to save some money Myers for Hamonic + would make sense. Then again, I suppose the NTC most guys have are probably more like "anywhere but Edmonton" clauses

[Caged Great]

The Jets were in danger of becoming Edmonton in terms of talent leaving and not being able to sign new guys. This will help stem the tide quite a bit.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I was expecting longer term. 7.6 isn't exactly cheap or a 'home-town discount', but the term provides much lower risk for the Jets. I wouldn't be able to complain about it at all if I was a Jets' fan.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

I gotta say, that Buff, IMO, is one of those incredibly OVERRATED guys, that comes up from time to time.

I am, clearly, a Blackhawk fan, and unlike many other 'Hawk fans, Buff is NOT the player I've regretted most about losing to sal cap issues.

His deficiencies as a D-man...poor lateral mobility, poor judgments on Offensive Blue line decisions, poor discipline at critical times, seem to be still evident.

On the 'Hawks, he was a MUCH BETTER RW than he was at RD, but, even then, it was more his big body on the PP, than any great skill.

Congrats to Buff, on getting the cash...but, I don't feel that this will be money well spent by the Jets.

I'm not going to defend or attack the deal itself - but this is his 6th season outside of Chicago. Very likely he's a different player now than he was 6 years ago.

[Street Pharmacist]

There is only one defenseman with more points over the last 4 years. He's good

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Only by two years. I don't think that makes much of a difference, especially when you consider their respective conditioning.

Gio is two years older and his contract runs one year longer. The Flames are taking on far more risk to save $750k per year.

Byfuglien has been more durable over the last few seasons too - though Gio's injury last year was obviously just a bad luck/freak incident.