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Old 07-24-2014, 03:43 PM   #41
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And how many cars on the road in North America compared to planes in the sky?
Not enough for me to even care to look it up because I know safety is still overwhelmingly in favour of the airplane.
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644 have died in plane crashes for the first half of this year, worldwide.

40,000 will die in auto accidents this year, in North America alone.
How many personal trips by car, and by plane?

I wouldn't say it unreasonable that I get in a car over 400 x as often as I am in a plane. I probably average well over 1000 trips/year by car and 3-4 trips /year by plane.
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About to board my flight, probably shouldn't have read this thread.

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Old 07-24-2014, 04:39 PM   #44
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How many personal trips by car, and by plane?

I wouldn't say it unreasonable that I get in a car over 400 x as often as I am in a plane. I probably average well over 1000 trips/year by car and 3-4 trips /year by plane.

It's Wikipedia so I can't say it's correct for sure, but the statistics favour airplanes per hour of travel which seems like the best comparison to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_safety#Statistics
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Not enough for me to even care to look it up because I know safety is still overwhelmingly in favour of the airplane.
Good. Don't bother then. Sill feel safer in my car. I'm not flying the airplane.
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Old 07-25-2014, 06:44 AM   #46
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Good. Don't bother then. Sill feel safer in my car. I'm not flying the airplane.
Indeed.

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Meh...said what I have to say, back on the thread topic.
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For me it's not so much my driving that makes me feel unsafe, it's the people I share the road with. It makes me feel safer knowing they're not driving my plane
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This is getting ridiculous.

I'm pretty happy that I'm done with flights for the foreseeable future
I doubt that Taiwan crash makes the news here if it wasn't for MH17 and AH0517 happening in close proximity time wise. There's likely plenty of crashes we never hear about around the world.

If we got a daily roundup of the accidents in Calgary on the news, would you be done with driving too?
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I doubt that Taiwan crash makes the news here if it wasn't for MH17 and AH0517 happening in close proximity time wise. There's likely plenty of crashes we never hear about around the world.

If we got a daily roundup of the accidents in Calgary on the news, would you be done with driving too?
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I doubt that Taiwan crash makes the news here if it wasn't for MH17 and AH0517 happening in close proximity time wise. There's likely plenty of crashes we never hear about around the world.

If we got a daily roundup of the accidents in Calgary on the news, would you be done with driving too?
Almost every commercial aviation crash gets some coverage. What we don't hear about is the small aircraft and charters with only a few passengers.
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human perception is a funny thing. current estimates of annual worldwide road fatalities are around 1.2-1.3 million. that's the equivalent of a city the size of Calgary being wiped off the face of the planet every single year.

let's say that there were never any vehicle related deaths, except on one random day during the year when it was guaranteed that over a million people would die if they were on the road (of course with the requisite media coverage for such a peculiarity). would that change anyone's mind about the dangers of driving vs flying? or would it still be "meh, I generally feel safer behind the wheel"?

it's not at all wrong to "feel" safer while driving than flying, I certainly am just a tiny bit more nervous boarding a plane than I am on my daily boring ass morning commute. but that's only fine if you acknowledge that driving is not actually the safer activity, your mind just treats it that way.
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I doubt that Taiwan crash makes the news here if it wasn't for MH17 and AH0517 happening in close proximity time wise. There's likely plenty of crashes we never hear about around the world.
This couldn't be further from the truth. Maybe not on mainstream news in Canada where the only thing that matters is hockey, but a plane crash where 50 people die always makes the news. Always.
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This couldn't be further from the truth. Maybe not on mainstream news in Canada where the only thing that matters is hockey, but a plane crash where 50 people die always makes the news. Always.
Fair enough. I get most of my news from Twitter and here, and I don't know if that would warrant a thread here normally.
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