07-22-2014, 10:10 PM
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#21
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang
I'm fine with standardizing playground and school zones, as most schools also have playgrounds and fields anyway. One standard "zone" is fine by me. A variable ending time would much better for our latitude, however.
Slowing from 50 to 30 for a block isn't going to cost me more than a few seconds in my day, so that part doesn't even bother me. I just don't think that there is any need to extend it to 9pm in the middle of the winter when the sun goes down at 4:30. I'd like to think that if you're old enough to be out playing at 9pm - 4.5 hours after winter sunset - then you're also old enough to have some safety skills of your own.
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Where you cause issues is making the limit 30kph on roads like Elbow after 5PM. The school zone south of Heritage is a good example of this, with the new rules it will be a huge choke point.
Either way, it's well known that there is practically zero enforcement of school/playground zones anyways. Your chances of getting a ticket that results in demerits or even sticks are close to nil.
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07-22-2014, 10:19 PM
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#22
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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Stupid stupid stupid. There is no reason a school zone should be such until 9 PM (nor a playground zone for that matter).
30 KM/H? Unnecessary, but I could tolerate it if we didn't put playground zones pretty well anywhere (Elbow Drive is the worst example).
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07-22-2014, 10:19 PM
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#23
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The best reason to go slow in a playground zone is to avoid a ticket.
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07-22-2014, 10:23 PM
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Price tag is big too
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School and playground zone speed limits will now be in effect from 7:30 a.m. to 9 p.m.
City council voted in favour of the change Monday and crews will now begin putting new decals on signs, with the work expected to be done by Sept. 1, at a cost of $157,000.
Phase 2 will see crews change school zone signs to playground zone signs — at the behest of schools — a project budgeted to cost $545,000.
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http://m.calgarysun.com/2014/07/22/c...times-extended
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07-22-2014, 10:25 PM
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#25
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll
Where you cause issues is making the limit 30kph on roads like Elbow after 5PM. The school zone south of Heritage is a good example of this, with the new rules it will be a huge choke point.
Either way, it's well known that there is practically zero enforcement of school/playground zones anyways. Your chances of getting a ticket that results in demerits or even sticks are close to nil.
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Uggh heading south on Elbow after 5:00 is gonna be even more of a ####show now.
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07-22-2014, 10:28 PM
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#26
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So many tickets.....
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07-22-2014, 10:46 PM
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#27
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
The best reason to go slow in a playground zone is to avoid a ticket.
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ya... what other reason would there be? I drive thru a few playground and school zones to work everyday, I've never seen a child there past 3:30
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07-22-2014, 10:46 PM
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#28
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They are spending 600k on signage. This could provide traffic calming that actually reduces traffic speed at two locations. Signage does very little to reduce speed.
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07-22-2014, 10:46 PM
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#29
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Wow that's brutal.
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07-22-2014, 10:49 PM
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#30
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll
Where you cause issues is making the limit 30kph on roads like Elbow after 5PM. The school zone south of Heritage is a good example of this, with the new rules it will be a huge CPS honey pot.
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07-23-2014, 08:21 AM
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#31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang
I'm fine with standardizing playground and school zones, as most schools also have playgrounds and fields anyway. One standard "zone" is fine by me. A variable ending time would much better for our latitude, however.
Slowing from 50 to 30 for a block isn't going to cost me more than a few seconds in my day, so that part doesn't even bother me. I just don't think that there is any need to extend it to 9pm in the middle of the winter when the sun goes down at 4:30. I'd like to think that if you're old enough to be out playing at 9pm - 4.5 hours after winter sunset - then you're also old enough to have some safety skills of your own.
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My kids will often hang out and play at the park during the winter after 4:30.
I have no problem with this. In the winter roads are often poor, people often have dirty windshields and head lights.
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07-23-2014, 08:26 AM
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#32
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They have to make up the deficit in the Police budget somehow.
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07-23-2014, 08:27 AM
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#33
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Sep 2010
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No problem with this as well. I never understood why we differentiate between playground and school zones. Most schools have playgrounds and most kids are still around the majority of these playgrounds well after 5. I wouldn't be opposed to 24/7 in places where kids are frequent.
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07-23-2014, 08:38 AM
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I'm pretty sure that if a school has a playground that it will have a school zone next to the school and a playground zone next to the playground.
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07-23-2014, 08:42 AM
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#35
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Hesla
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That's a joke. I part own/operate a large run label/decal manufacturing business and I could produce 50000 of these decals for under $5000. Unless they are paying guys $200/hr to put these up on the signs I don't see how it costs anywhere near $157000 to put these decals up.
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07-23-2014, 08:43 AM
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#36
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Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc
I'm pretty sure that if a school has a playground that it will have a school zone next to the school and a playground zone next to the playground.
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The change to 1 zone makes sense, given every school has a playground that is used as a park. The 9pm even in winter thing does not. Should have just made it 7:30 to 2hr after dusk.
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07-23-2014, 08:44 AM
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#37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GGG
They are spending 600k on signage. This could provide traffic calming that actually reduces traffic speed at two locations. Signage does very little to reduce speed.
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Traffic calming = speed bumps on roadways, making them permanent fixtures.
There is no good reason to have speedbumps on roadways especially in cases like Centre Street.
Not a fan of these changes.
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07-23-2014, 08:45 AM
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#38
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
My kids will often hang out and play at the park during the winter after 4:30.
I have no problem with this. In the winter roads are often poor, people often have dirty windshields and head lights.
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Of course kids will be outside at 4:30. I was suggesting that 9:00 is a tad late in the winter.
Personally, I'm not bothered either way. Standardizing the zones is the important part.
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07-23-2014, 08:47 AM
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#39
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Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ducay
The change to 1 zone makes sense, given every school has a playground that is used as a park. The 9pm even in winter thing does not. Should have just made it 7:30 to 2hr after dusk.
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Kids are out at parks in the winter after 7:30pm, why do think they aren't?
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07-23-2014, 08:48 AM
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#40
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Thoughts and prayers go out to those that will have to take an extra 10-15 seconds to get to their destination.
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