Tim Hortons a Flop in the US

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Subway can be healthy if you pick what goes on correctly, but most subs that are served there aren't. I find their food/sauces very saltie.

I never put sauces on subs or burgers. For me there are enough ingredients to satisfy my taste buds. Sauces just drown out whatever ingredients you use. Considering this I like Subway and my choice for burgers is A&W.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I never put sauces on subs or burgers. For me there are enough ingredients to satisfy my taste buds. Sauces just drown out whatever ingredients you use. Considering this I like Subway and my choice for burgers is A&W.

On a burger sure, but I can't even fathom eating a sub with no sauce. Like you mean not even mayo or anything, like just a completely dry sub?

I'm trying to picture eating one like that, and it just seems like it would be a huge chore.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by btimbit

It's like the people that try and tell me I only like the CFL because TSN tells me too.

That would be me.

And it's true.

There is no possible other explanation for anyone to knowingly choose to watch Chris Schultz.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by flameswin

On a burger sure, but I can't even fathom eating a sub with no sauce. Like you mean not even mayo or anything, like just a completely dry sub?

I'm trying to picture eating one like that, and it just seems like it would be a huge chore.

I put lettuce, tomatoes, black olives, onions, and cheese besides whatever meat on my sub and it's fine. Maybe salt and pepper but no sauce. I like to taste the ingredients.

sometimes they'll have a pork rib choice and than I'll get the barbecue sauce but otherwise no sauce.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I put lettuce, tomatoes, black olives, onions, and cheese besides whatever meat on my sub and it's fine. Maybe salt and pepper but no sauce. I like to taste the ingredients.

sometimes they'll have a pork rib choice and than I'll get the barbecue sauce but otherwise no sauce.

You're from another planet.

[Barnet Flame]

I'm the same at subway: no sauce for me. The main reason I opt out of sauce/Mayo is because no matter what Subway you're in, in any part of the world, they don't take you seriously when you ask for 'just a little' sauce.

The taste of the ingredients ends up being drowned out and what should be a healthy option becomes a flotilla of fat.

It took a while, but over the years, I think my tastebuds have become better for it.

[burnin_vernon]

I would be reluctant to call Subway healthy. It can be low in calories, but nothing about that rubberized piece of "chicken", for instance, is what I would call healthy.

[JiriHrdina]

The key is to put mustard on your sub. It is far less bad for you than things like mayo or their sub sauce, but gives you a bit of that creaminess and additional flavor.

[nik-]

the problem with mustard at Subway is that they have no concept of "a little mustard" or "light on the mustard". They just blast the thing with it and it overpowers everything else.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by nik-

the problem with mustard at Subway is that they have no concept of "a little mustard" or "light on the mustard". They just blast the thing with it and it overpowers everything else.

Yeah that's true, the concept of "a little" is something they can't grasp.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Yeah that's true, the concept of "a little" is something they can't grasp.

Shake, shake, shake......BLAAAAPPPP, and there's mustard f$$$ing everywhere. I now either get them to scape it off or make me a new one (that induces the second blank stare) I know it sounds dickish, and I like mustard, but most of the employees just don't get it. Same goes for the lettuce, "a little bit of lettuce", which I always say, apparently means two heaping handfuls. "Now take half of that lettuce off and add tomatoes, green peppers, cucumbers and onions", that gets me the second blank stare. And people confuse "freshly made" with "fresh". The Subway ingredients are far from fresh; processed meats, cheese and vegetables that have been sitting in those stainless steel tubs for days. I know the busier locations turn over their ingredients regularly, but other locations that aren't so busy will keep tose sliced tomatoes untill customers refuse them, which I havs also done and this resulted in a very prolonged blank stare.

As for Tim Hortons food, the fact that they are constantly introducing new items, and abandoning others speaks for itself. Im not a coffee drinker so I can't speak on that, but the breakfasts stink compared to A and W, which I like the best, and to McDonalds. I also don't care for their donuts but I do like Timbits. I also like the fact that Tim Hortons is very supportive within the community, Timbits hockey/ soccer, local and national curling sponsorships, Campday, heck they even donated coffee, muffins and doughnuts for our family reunion. For those reasons I still buys stuff there eventhough it is not my favorite.

[WilsonFourTwo]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

She would literally drive by (or have me drive by) completely legitimate options so that we could sit in a line-up, sometimes right out onto the road, so she could get a coffee and muffin. Coffee Time was right across the street and sold the same stuff. I swear it is indoctrination for most people.

I've mentioned this example before, but there was a Coffee Time right next to my condo several years ago. I used to go in pretty regularly on my walk to work. Decent food and terrific coffee provided by a very, very friendly family that lived in the neighborhood.

They went broke. The place was a ghost town for the ~18 months of operation.

6 months and a quick renovation later, Tim Hortons opened in the exact same location. People line up out the door and cars line up out onto the street. And I would argue that it was (is?) one of the worst locations I've ever been to.

Brand recognition is, apparently, everything.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by kunkstyle

How is this argument still trotted out again and again and again? At what Starbucks do you spend $4 on a coffee?

You want some specialty drink sure, you can spend upwards of $4. You want just a coffee? The same size that runs me $1.90 at Tims is about $2.15 at Starbucks.

You also missed the number one reason: marketing.

The biggest size is 2.89. I get it all the time, it's a gigantic cup of coffee, I don't feel ripped off at all. Love starbucks, timmy's is trash by comparison IMO.

[polak]

Yes. More sauce for the rest of us.

[Igster]

I'm with you Vulcan. Both my wife and I always ask for no sauce. Anything they put on just kills the taste of anything else and as pointed out, they just don't get "light" or "a little". I simply can't understand why someone would want so much mayo on something that it pours out the side of the burger/sub/whatever when you bite down and it's all you can taste. Disgusting.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by nik-

the problem with mustard at Subway is that they have no concept of "a little mustard" or "light on the mustard". They just blast the thing with it and it overpowers everything else.

A little mustard goes a long way on a sub and when it's busy at lunch they just squirt the sauces out of the bottle with little regard for accuracy. I don't even get mustard on subs anymore because of this and usually just opt for sweet onion and sub sauce.

[jammies]

Subway connoisseurs. Now I've seen it all.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by jammies

Subway connoisseurs. Now I've seen it all.

There's a reason they let you pick your toppings. So you can make it to your taste.

Radical thinking, I know.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by nik-

the problem with mustard at Subway is that they have no concept of "a little mustard" or "light on the mustard". They just blast the thing with it and it overpowers everything else.

Yeah, even when you say 'just a little sauce' they bomb it on there often.

Personally I like getting a thin strip of whatever sauce goes with the sandwich (sweet onion, chipotle, whatever) and then a thin strip of the 'sub sauce' on the veggies. I always get a veggie heavy sub though I figure it evens out. Often everything but hot peppers.

[Sainters7]

I could never go sans sauce, but fully agree Subway goes way too hard with theirs. Mayo or ranch 'splosions mid-bite are the worst.

The first mistake is not going to Mr. Sub