Joe Rogan cancellation watch

[White Out 403]

So the left has been salivating to get this guy cancelled for some time now because of his anti-vax sentiment and misinformation on his podcast. The right, for their credit, has glorified this guy in a stupid way.

The latest in the last couple days has been video of Rogan using the n-word a bunch of times, but the real problem is him comparing black people to Apes from the Planet of the Apes, and saying that black people have different brains and are physically Superior to white people.

I think he's done for with Spotify. Thoughts?

[btimbit]

I hope spotify ditches him so his old episodes will be on youtube again

[calgarygeologist]

I'm not sure Spotify is interesting in ditching Rogan but if there is enough public or corporate sentiment they will obviously cut ties.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Cancelled? Spotify paid Rogan $100 million to host his podcasts. If they dump him, that would be their choice. If they keep him and lose other content/advertisers, that is their choice. Not much to see here.

[Ducay]

I thought Rogan's "apologies" were pretty well articulated, but ultimately the cancel mob has smelled blood and will continue at it. Will be interesting to see how it shakes out since, like Aaron Rodgers and Chappelle, he's too much of a cash cow to cancel.

Either way, thought this was funny

https://twitter.com/user/status/1490130249291644929

[Yamer]

I don't have a horse in this race since it doesn't matter to me if Rogan is de-platformed or not. However, the recent saga with Dwayne Johnson is a perfect encapsulation of how we're entirely unserious as a society.

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by btimbit

I hope spotify ditches him so his old episodes will be on youtube again

117 episodes removed as of this morning, so perhaps your wish has been granted, at least for those 117.

[Amethyst]

I want Spotify to ditch him, because artists I want to listen to keep leaving the platform because of him.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Ducay

I thought Rogan's "apologies" were pretty well articulated, but ultimately the cancel mob has smelled blood and will continue at it. Will be interesting to see how it shakes out since, like Aaron Rodgers and Chappelle, he's too much of a cash cow to cancel.

Either way, thought this was funny

https://twitter.com/user/status/1490130249291644929

Always the interesting part. It's got very little to do with him saying the N word, it's just that people want him gone so picked out new ammo.

Bill Burr said the N-word probably 500 times on stage in the early to mid 2000's but nobody cares because he's not a target

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Always the interesting part. It's got very little to do with him saying the N word, it's just that people want him gone so picked out new ammo.

Bill Burr said the N-word probably 500 times on stage in the early to mid 2000's but nobody cares because he's not a target

Also, most of these folks don't grasp comedy. Specifically stand-up comedy.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Also, most of these folks don't grasp comedy. Specifically stand-up comedy.

Neither does Joe Rogan, though.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Also, most of these folks don't grasp comedy. Specifically stand-up comedy.

Remember, it's only comedy until you don't agree with it. Then it's statements

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Remember, it's only comedy until you don't agree with it. Then it's statements

I think Rogan is hilarious. I don't think making "jokes" about black people reminding him of apes is funny or acceptable.

[speede5]

Not that I want to defend him but I don’t think he compared anyone to an ape. If you listen to his version of events it seems like just a situation that was maybe a bad choice of words that someone is finding a way to exploit.

Something about feeing like he was in planet of the apes cause they were completely out of place in the neighborhood? Maybe it’s just grasping at straws to explain it on his part but it sounds like a nothing burger to me.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

I think Rogan is hilarious. I don't think making "jokes" about black people reminding him of apes is funny or acceptable.

I don't either and I sure don't find it funny. I'm not much of a fan of his standup in general and rarely listen to the podcast, in the last 10 years I've seen maybe 10 episodes. I just don't buy the cancel culture angle on this, that bit has been known about and public for over a decade and it's only being used against him now that people are up in arms about other stuff that he's said.

I don't even care if he gets booted from Spotify, like I said. Then I can watch the old episodes with Neil deGrasse Tyson again that I used to love to re-listen to every once and a while

[Yamer]

Yes, there's definitely a "line" in comedy. It's all in how you construct the joke and how you address the subject. Jim Jefferies has done a pretty good job, albeit lower key, of transitioning his comedy and showcasing how the line moves.

This is one of my favorite Burr pieces, but it certainly wouldn't pass muster today simply because he used the F-word. Forget that the subject is toxic masculinity and engrained homophobia.

NSFW!

As for Rogan, I believe he should be more responsible with his discourse and how he handles his guests given his reach and influence, but ultimately it is up to the consumer to digest his content critically.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by speede5

Not that I want to defend him but I don’t think he compared anyone to an ape. If you listen to his version of events it seems like just a situation that was maybe a bad choice of words that someone is finding a way to exploit.

Something about feeing like he was in planet of the apes cause they were completely out of place in the neighborhood? Maybe it’s just grasping at straws to explain it on his part but it sounds like a nothing burger to me.

I don't know, there's another podcast where he clearly says that black people are physically Superior to white people but have different brains.

I wasn't aware of any of this ####. I'm glad it's out now.

[GGG]

This guy distributed misinformation on Covid resulting in lower vaccination rates which has resulted in increased deaths from Covid. Now should people believe Rogan as a source, obviously not, but his actions have consequences.

So if artists decide to take a stand and pull their music because they don’t want to be associated with him that is a reasonable position and if Spotify decides that these artists offer more value then Rogan does that is a business decision.

This isn’t about a random comedy special 15 years ago. This guy is actively disseminating misinformation. Why shouldn’t there be consequences for that. This isn’t the “Angry woke mob” coming for him, he is not a victim.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Yamer

As for Rogan, I believe he should be more responsible with his discourse and how he handles his guests given his reach and influence, but ultimately it is up to the consumer to digest his content critically.

Exactly this.

I don't like him much, so I don't watch him much. It's literally that simple.

I also, in the words of Jim Jefferies, don't take health advice from comedians. It's just one of my things.
If Tom Segura told me cutting my toe off will make me immune to aids, I'm not getting a knife out

[nfotiu]

I don't necessarily think he should be banished from the airwaves. But, he sure is a major influence on that 20-50 yo male audience. I think his show has done more widespread damage to vaccine confidence than any other single source.

I admire Neil Young's stance on this, and will probably cancel our subscription if my wife lets me. I really don't feel like contributing money that goes to Rogan. We already pay for YouTube Premium family and get YouTube music with that, so I wouldn't mind ditching it anyway, it's just all those playlists etc that need to be re-done.

Spotify has a big problem trying to sort this out.