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Old 07-14-2017, 11:07 AM   #21
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I think Bennett might also get a 2 year deal, $2 MM a year.

Leaving 5 mil in cap space.

Brouwer for 1st Round Pick 2018

1st 2018+Andersoon+Gillies+Poirier for Duchene

Sign Jagr 1 year for $1 MM

Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Bennett-Jagr
Lazar-Backlund-Frolik
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THAT'S HOW YOU WIN A CUP BOYS & GIRLS
I like the cut of your jib, but there's no way Brouwer gets you a 1st.
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Old 07-14-2017, 11:07 AM   #22
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I think Bennett might also get a 2 year deal, $2 MM a year.

Leaving 5 mil in cap space.

Brouwer for 1st Round Pick 2018

1st 2018+Andersoon+Gillies+Poirier for Duchene

Sign Jagr 1 year for $1 MM

Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Bennett-Jagr
Lazar-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Jankowksi-Stajan

THAT'S HOW YOU WIN A CUP BOYS & GIRLS
You don't have Duchene in that lineup
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Old 07-14-2017, 11:07 AM   #23
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I think Bennett might also get a 2 year deal, $2 MM a year.

Leaving 5 mil in cap space.

Brouwer for 1st Round Pick 2018

1st 2018+Andersoon+Gillies+Poirier for Duchene

Sign Jagr 1 year for $1 MM

Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Bennett-Jagr
Lazar-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Jankowksi-Stajan

THAT'S HOW YOU WIN A CUP BOYS & GIRLS
I think trading Brouwer for a 1st round pick would be way more impressive than us winning a Cup next year!

...and odd to see us trade for Duchene but he doesn't make our starting lineup??
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Old 07-14-2017, 11:07 AM   #24
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You don't have Duchene in that lineup
fixed haha
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Old 07-14-2017, 11:08 AM   #25
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Nm.
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Old 07-14-2017, 11:08 AM   #26
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Cheaper than I was expecting, but in hindsight I was probably too generous in my estimation.
I think the vast majority of CP was too generous in their estimations for Ferland, Bennett and Lazar. I still feel as though Sam will sign a 2 year deal at a 2.0-2.25 AAV leaving the Flames with roughly 6 mil in cap space, which is a pretty good spot to be in for any additional moves that may need to be made.
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Old 07-14-2017, 11:08 AM   #27
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Brouwer for 1st Round Pick 2018
Stajan for 2nd Round Pick 2018
Lol.

Vegas could have had either player for literally free, and they didn't take them.
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fixed haha
Poor Ferland. So replaceable in people's eyes.
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Old 07-14-2017, 11:09 AM   #29
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I think Bennett might also get a 2 year deal, $2 MM a year.

Leaving 5 mil in cap space.

Brouwer for 1st Round Pick 2018
Stajan for 2nd Round Pick 2018

1st 2018+2nd 2018+Andersoon+Gillies for Duchene

Sign Jagr 1 year for $1 MM

Gaudreau-Monahan-Duchene
Tkachuk-Bennett-Jagr
Ferland-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Jankowksi-Lazar

THAT'S HOW YOU WIN A CUP BOYS & GIRLS
Yes, I agree, turning NHL 17 to easy mode is a good way to win a cup.
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I think Bennett might also get a 2 year deal, $2 MM a year.

Leaving 5 mil in cap space.

Brouwer for 1st Round Pick 2018
Stajan for 2nd Round Pick 2018

1st 2018+2nd 2018+Andersoon+Gillies for Duchene

Sign Jagr 1 year for $1 MM

Gaudreau-Monahan-Duchene
Tkachuk-Bennett-Jagr
Ferland-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Jankowksi-Lazar

THAT'S HOW YOU WIN A CUP BOYS & GIRLS
You have it reversed: It would probably cost the Flames a 1st for someone to take Brouwer.
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I like the cut of your jib, but there's no way Brouwer gets you a 1st.
What's a jib?
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Old 07-14-2017, 11:10 AM   #32
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Treliving might be the best GM in the NHL in terms of cap management.
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I think the vast majority of CP was too generous in their estimations for Ferland, Bennett and Lazar. I still feel as though Sam will sign a 2 year deal at a 2.0-2.25 AAV leaving the Flames with roughly 6 mil in cap space, which is a pretty good spot to be in for any additional moves that may need to be made.
I agree with the Bennett contract, but the Flames will have less cap-space than stated.

After the Lazar signing they have roughly 7.2M left. If 2.2M for Bennett, that's 5M left with 12 forwards signed, 6 defenseman and 2 goalies.

A lot of the left over spots will be filled with Jankowski/Shinkaruk/Poirier/Wotherspoon/Kulak at ~1M, but there's still not a ton.
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Old 07-14-2017, 11:12 AM   #34
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Treliving might be the best GM in the NHL in terms of cap management.
His people skills have to be phenomenal. So much buy in from everyone, and at decent value. It is impressive.
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I have a hunch Bennett is going to get a five year deal.
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Treliving might be the best GM in the NHL in terms of cap management.
I think he may have also learned some of these skills from the fact that he is the son of a very shrewd business person. We are lucky to have him.
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I think the vast majority of CP was too generous in their estimations for Ferland, Bennett and Lazar. I still feel as though Sam will sign a 2 year deal at a 2.0-2.25 AAV leaving the Flames with roughly 6 mil in cap space, which is a pretty good spot to be in for any additional moves that may need to be made.
I'm thinking 3 year 2.75-3 AAV. Would be worth taking the risk of paying more now for his potential upside.

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Treliving might be the best GM in the NHL in terms of cap management.
I have a feeling he is great at vision-casting. I think these players are buying into his vision and letting the wizard put them under a spell.

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Old 07-14-2017, 11:16 AM   #39
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Yes, I agree, turning NHL 17 to easy mode is a good way to win a cup.
I had it on Medium and traded Brouwer for Werenski, straight up.
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I'm over the moon with this Lazar signing...

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