03-12-2017, 11:13 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
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I say be patient with him. If he can develop similar to Backlund it will be worth the wait and there is no reason to rush him.
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03-12-2017, 11:18 AM
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Had an idea!
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Unreal how impatient people are considering how Backlund has developed.
Points are not everything. It is undeniable that the skill is there, but I'd much rather have Bennett learn to play a complete game combined with the edge he obviously has than be a one dimensional offensive player.
Hockey is more than just putting the put into the net. Unless we should transition into being the Oilers.
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03-12-2017, 11:21 AM
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#43
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Calgary, AB
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Saw the title and guessed that Par created it... surprise surprise
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03-12-2017, 11:31 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
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It takes longer to develop players when your systems and coaches change consistently....use our team as an example....using Backlund as the player.
Took a whole lot longer than people may have wanted but he started with Darryl and today has Glen.....several different coaches in between but yet you always heard opposing players and coaches league wide say they knew how good Backlund was.
They were right.
Bennetts no different but accelerate his ascension if we can keep this system and these coaches ....Bennett is going to be a great player.
Even better if any of what Tkachuk has rubs off on him.....looks like he's got a little Ferlund running through his veins and now look at #79.
Exciting times watching the ascension of our young players develop under a what looks to be up and coming coach.
Without injuries we'd be in great shape and that's all that's holding us back.
Sam's probably his own worst critic and likely doesn't need extra criticism.....I like Sam , allot.
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03-12-2017, 11:33 AM
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#45
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azure
Unreal how impatient people are considering how Backlund has developed.
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Bennetts career so far: 29 goals + 30 assists = 59 points in 145 games (as a 20 years old)
Backlunds first 3 years: 15 goals + 31 assists = 46 points in 138 games (as a 23 years old)
I think some people forget how young Bennett still is and that he effectively lost a whole year of development. He'll be fine. Not every young player comes into the NHL guns blazing like Tkachuk.
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03-12-2017, 11:33 AM
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#46
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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It's now obvious to me that Bennett has a role as an enforcer at the very least. 
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03-12-2017, 06:13 PM
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#47
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#1 Goaltender
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The real question is going to be:
If Sam Bennett struggles in the playoffs and hurts the team in the process, how many people are willing to abandon the idea of "keeping him at center?" For me personally, when it comes to winning playoff games, it trumps any personal investment of a player.
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03-12-2017, 06:34 PM
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#48
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: YYC
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He fights like a Gilmour 
What were you doing when you were 20?
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03-12-2017, 06:36 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper
The real question is going to be:
If Sam Bennett struggles in the playoffs and hurts the team in the process, how many people are willing to abandon the idea of "keeping him at center?" For me personally, when it comes to winning playoff games, it trumps any personal investment of a player.
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Who are you going to replace him with though? It's not like we are going to call up Janko to place #3 C in the playoffs. He'll be fine playing there.
I think after reading through everyone's comments the truth is probably in the middle. The kid is young and will only get better but there is absolutely no guarantee he ends up as a 1st line centre. I mentioned in another thread that Kadri could legitimately be his ceiling. If he ends up that good I think we should be happy, not elated, but happy. I'm in the cautiously optimistic crowd myself.
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03-12-2017, 08:13 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Soliak
Who are you going to replace him with though? It's not like we are going to call up Janko to place #3 C in the playoffs. He'll be fine playing there.
I think after reading through everyone's comments the truth is probably in the middle. The kid is young and will only get better but there is absolutely no guarantee he ends up as a 1st line centre. I mentioned in another thread that Kadri could legitimately be his ceiling. If he ends up that good I think we should be happy, not elated, but happy. I'm in the cautiously optimistic crowd myself.
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Depending on how Lazar plays, I could see any combination of him, Stajan or Freddie Hamilton as the bottom 2 centers. I don't see Jankowski playing above any of the 3 I mentioned. If anyone remembers the 2015 playoffs, Sam Bennett played wing and was one our best forwards of that first round.
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03-12-2017, 08:26 PM
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#51
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Franchise Player
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The future of Sam Bennett
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Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper
Depending on how Lazar plays, I could see any combination of him, Stajan or Freddie Hamilton as the bottom 2 centers. I don't see Jankowski playing above any of the 3 I mentioned. If anyone remembers the 2015 playoffs, Sam Bennett played wing and was one our best forwards of that first round.
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None of those players are better than Bennett. Stajan is where he should be. No higher. Hamilton is the 13th forward - if he was a better centre than Bennett, he'd already be playing. Lazar? Talk about mixed up expectations. Bennett has been significantly better than Lazar has been this season. Even if Bennett struggles, none of those options are improvements.
Bennett "struggling" (aka - developing) this year in the 3rd centre spot has us in 2nd in the division.
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03-12-2017, 08:31 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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I could see that Bennett line being absolutely huge for the Flames in the playoffs. Bennett is a fierce competitor and I could see him elevating his game in the postseason. Brouwer and Versteeg have both won cups and are perfect wingers for Benny right now good solid vets. I have a good feeling about Brouwer and Versteeg in the playoffs as well.
I want Lazar to work his way on to the 4th line for the playoffs as I could see him, Stajan, and Bouma/Hathaway providing depth scoring as well.
The fact Backlund has raised his game so much this year allows Bennett to come along a little slower.
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03-12-2017, 08:49 PM
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#53
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Bennett's been kind of buried playing with Brouwer and Versteeg and getting no time on the powerplay. Neither of them have done much at all 5 on 5 this season but that line hasn't been bad as no line is costing the team any games, they just haven't been lighting up the lamp. Not worried in the least about Bennett as he's going to grow into being an NHL center and one day have some solid wingers to complement him. Kid is only 20 years old for crying out loud and Gaudreau at that time was in his 2nd year of college while Bennett is in the NHL.
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03-12-2017, 08:54 PM
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#54
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Kamloops
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Agree with all the posters propping Bennett. Watching him during the streak and I think he is a bright spot. Playing smart responsible tough minutes, fighting like a champ, PK.
He's contributing right now and the future will only be brighter.
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03-12-2017, 09:23 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper
The real question is going to be:
If Sam Bennett struggles in the playoffs and hurts the team in the process, how many people are willing to abandon the idea of "keeping him at center?" For me personally, when it comes to winning playoff games, it trumps any personal investment of a player.
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Who do you suggest we replace him with? I think he is doing a fine job and probably doing exactly what the coaches have asked him to do. I am curious, in what way do you suggest he is going to hurt the team?
nm saw your response after I posted.
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03-12-2017, 09:53 PM
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#56
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With Backlund, i think the impatience was because what he did wasn't really seen by casual fans...
his fancy stats were really good, as many have stated: fans were just expecting him to be a scorer right off the hop.
As others have mentioned, Bennett has a chance of being a really important player for us, but he he isn't going to be a scorer like Gilmore, but he could be as difficult as Dougie was to play against.
Think Mike Peca, or a Backlund with an edge to his game...
That would be awesome imo
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03-12-2017, 09:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper
Depending on how Lazar plays, I could see any combination of him, Stajan or Freddie Hamilton as the bottom 2 centers. I don't see Jankowski playing above any of the 3 I mentioned. If anyone remembers the 2015 playoffs, Sam Bennett played wing and was one our best forwards of that first round.
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Yes.
Replacing Sam Bennett with one of two guys who have been in and out of an NHL lineup the entire season while scoring 1 point each is a fabulous, fabulous idea for the playoffs.
Just fabulous.
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03-12-2017, 09:54 PM
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#58
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Originally Posted by SOMBRI2
He fights like a Gilmour
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Less weed.
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03-12-2017, 10:35 PM
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#59
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Holland
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Can he score goals? -> 4 Goal Game
Can he fight? -> Trouba
Can he play physical -> List of massive hits and battles
Can he sometimes make dumb plays? -> 2nd year, lost one year of development. 20.
Are his points low? -> re: above & less than ideal linemates. Not a great excuse though.
Is his effort a problem? Never. You see him giving it 100% in every area of the ice.
He has the skill but lacks the confidence.
His passing/vision needs some work but otherwise I think its just confidence and strength/speed (off ice stuff)
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03-12-2017, 11:30 PM
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#60
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary
With Backlund, i think the impatience was because what he did wasn't really seen by casual fans...
his fancy stats were really good, as many have stated: fans were just expecting him to be a scorer right off the hop.
As others have mentioned, Bennett has a chance of being a really important player for us, but he he isn't going to be a scorer like Gilmore, but he could be as difficult as Dougie was to play against.
Think Mike Peca, or a Backlund with an edge to his game...
That would be awesome imo
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Doug Gilmour had less goals and assists in the NHL by age 20 than Bennett. 
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