2018 Olympics Thread: News and Discussion

[flambers]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It is my understanding that if any player chooses to try and go to the Olympics without NHL approval they will be suspended immediately and the IOC will recognize that suspension and they will be ineligible to play anyhow. I can't remember where I read that.

Will be interesting to see how the NHL handle this, as the team will need to suspend the player I would think (i.e. player would miss around 2 weeks and the club most likely would not pay the player during this time

[Bourque's Twin]

Canada: Hamilton
USA: Tkachuk, Gaudreau
Sweden: Backlund
Czech: Frolik

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I am on the owners and NHL's side on this one, I don't think the NHL should go. Why should the owners allow their star players whom they have committed millions of dollars to, go and possibly get hurt?

The injury excuse is a bit moot when the NHL holds a similar tourney where players could get injured just as easily. While it's not in the middle of the season like the Olympics, even a summer injury has the potential to have pretty big consequences when it's to one of your stars.

Like most thing, the NHL not wanting to go to the Olympics is primarily a money issue.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Table 5

The injury excuse is a bit moot when the NHL holds a similar tourney where players could get injured just as easily. While it's not in the middle of the season like the Olympics, even a summer injury has the potential to have pretty big consequences when it's to one of your stars.

Like most thing, the NHL not wanting to go to the Olympics is primarily a money issue.

Sure NHL will want the Olympics to cover the expenses, however schedule is a factor as well.

As for injuries, players would need to buy insurance.

[Lord Carnage]

Does anyone else here feel like it isn't the NHL holding out to get something from the IOC/IIHF, but instead holding out to get something from the NHLPA?

I mean, the players (from what I understand) do really want to go, with the NHL seeing not much benefit from going in 2018. 2022 in China is something else, but Korea?

I'm starting to think they are playing coy to get a concession from the NHLPA (like the PA did to get the week off in exchange for the 3-on-3 allstar game). Maybe something like extended the life of the existing CBA - which I think the NHL already floated once and got shot down...???

Anyway, just wondering.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Lord Carnage

Does anyone else here feel like it isn't the NHL holding out to get something from the IOC/IIHF, but instead holding out to get something from the NHLPA?

I mean, the players (from what I understand) do really want to go, with the NHL seeing not much benefit from going in 2018. 2022 in China is something else, but Korea?

I'm starting to think they are playing coy to get a concession from the NHLPA (like the PA did to get the week off in exchange for the 3-on-3 allstar game). Maybe something like extended the life of the existing CBA - which I think the NHL already floated once and got shot down...???

Anyway, just wondering.

I think the NHL will have to get something from someone (NHLPA/IOC/IIHF) for them to go which is unfortunate.

I don't think they will go. I think some players WILL go though however, and it will end up being some sort of debacle. If the NHL knows how to do anything, it is making something a debacle.

[Canada 02]

Fan960 doing a segment on this now. NHL would like to be able to use promo material, like the Olympic logo, country and player highlights, video clips on NHL.com or NHL Network. Sounds like a reasonable ask, especially since NBC is the NHL and Olympic broadcast partner

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It is my understanding that if any player chooses to try and go to the Olympics without NHL approval they will be suspended immediately and the IOC will recognize that suspension and they will be ineligible to play anyhow. I can't remember where I read that.

That certainly won't stop a guy like Ovechkin. Didn't he already say he's going anyway whether or not the NHL agrees?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by direwolf

That certainly won't stop a guy like Ovechkin. Didn't he already say he's going anyway whether or not the NHL agrees?

So if the IOC says Ovechkin is ineligible to play… he'll… play anyway? I'd like to see how he pulls that off.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

So if the IOC says Ovechkin is ineligible to play… he'll… play anyway? I'd like to see how he pulls that off.

I can't seem to find any proof of the IOC saying the player would be ineligible. Anybody have a link?

[Fire]

Yeah, not sure why the IOC would care about NHL suspensions.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Once again the Calgary Sun's quality editing shines through....

"We're going where???"

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by I-Hate-Hulse

Once again the Calgary Sun's quality editing shines through....

"We're going where???"

Strictly speaking, it's the Calgary Herald's quality editing, since Postmedia took over the Sun and runs both papers from the same newsroom.

Sad, really.

[goodyear]

Gary Bettman: they should cancel the Winter Olympics

Also Gary Bettman: build a new arena now with public money Calgary

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[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by Fire

Yeah, not sure why the IOC would care about NHL suspensions.

Because the IIHF honours the NHL suspensions.

[Chingas]

Originally Posted by I-Hate-Hulse

Once again the Calgary Sun's quality editing shines through....

"We're going where???"

No wonder the Nhl is afraid to go. Need the there are two Koreas Benning pic with Betman's face.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin

Canada: Hamilton
USA: Tkachuk, Gaudreau
Sweden: Backlund
Czech: Frolik

Monahan and Gio are no doubt in the conversation for Canada's roster IMO. Will obviously be harder for Gio but Monahan is trending towards a third straight 60 point season and is definitely part of Canadian teams going forward.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Table 5

The injury excuse is a bit moot when the NHL holds a similar tourney where players could get injured just as easily. While it's not in the middle of the season like the Olympics, even a summer injury has the potential to have pretty big consequences when it's to one of your stars.

Like most thing, the NHL not wanting to go to the Olympics is primarily a money issue.

sure it's money

but that doesn't mean the other issues aren't real too.

The Islanders lost Tavares last time and it essentially ended their season. Many NHL clubs need to keep momentum in seasons to make sure their fan base doesn't just look elsewhere when the olympics are on, and I can see that.

I know we are all supposed to hate the league and Bettman as a starting point, but I personally would have loved to see the CBA extended in order to get the owners to buy in.

Either way I can see it as an issue for sure.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

Because the IIHF honours the NHL suspensions.

Where is that proven?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Where is that proven?

IIRC the IIHF upheld Bertuzzi's suspension from the Moore incident. He couldn't play in Europe during the '04 lockout. But that was egregious incident.