[Signing] Flames re-sign Ferland (2 yrs, $1.75M AAV)

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

I expect they are referring to what an arbitration hearing would look at. Ferland has 48 points in 173 NHL games, coming off a 25 point season.
I expect that close to value, based on the numbers.

I think conversely fans have become accustomed to the new overpay early in the carrer for potential. The NHL norm has changed.

It would have been easy to sign him to $2.5 for 3+ years. With this Brad has avoid that trap. He could get bitten later if Ferland hits 2 x 25 goals, but the odds aren't there.

So in the end this is a wise move, it avoids a poisonous arbitration and doesn't pay a nickel over his current worth with near term incentive to excel.

These moves don't make you team but can cap jail you fast.

Great move by doing the right thing and being responsible.

[Incogneto]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Roughly $8.1 million that they need to use on Lazar, Bennett, 2 additional Fs, and 1 d-man. (assuming they go with the 14f 7d 2g roster; F. Hamilton, and Bartowski make the roster)

2 additional F's:
Jankowski
One of Shinkaruk/Porier (They are now waiver eligible, so if they perform inre-season, I assume they wont want to put on waivers.)

1 D-Man:
Have to assume Kulak. Have to think they aren't signing someone else here.

[DuffMan]

Freakin love it.

[Journey17]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Its a fair deal.

Good for Ferland.

I wonder how many fans here would have liked to see a 5 year deal at 2 or 2.5?

Those carry risk but can really keep the cap down long term. If Ferland is going to be seeing substansial time on the first line his ask will be way up in two years.

Poile is always pulling it off in Nashville. Ie Jarnkrok, Ellis, Josi.

I'd rather not have Ferland as a long term big money contract as I think it is just as likely that he is off the top line as on it by then. A bottom two line player can't be making $2.5-3M as a winger who doesn't play special teams (assuming someone replaces him as a net presence on PP). I agree that Poile has done well but I'd argue about whether Ferland is a core player. I think he is the type of player that Hawks are constantly trading out.

I love this contract for being the right length to prove whether Ferland is a top six player. I hope he is a top six player as that would give the flames great depth and I love adding a little six to our top line.

[tvp2003]

I'm confident he will earn every penny of this contract and will hopefully be due for a (big) pay raise in two years. If all goes according to plan I can see him staying long term.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

False.

Market value? Just head on down to the Market and get a Ferland? Why don't I strap on my Ferland helmet and squeeze down into a Ferland cannon and fire off into Ferland land, where Ferlands grow on Ferlandobbies?!

There is no Ferland market for there is only one Ferland.

It's always sunny in Calgary

[JFK]

Good value, I really like Ferland but lessons learned from Bouma. Not concerned about UFA status, if Ferland has a couple 20 goal seasons, that's good for our Flames.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Tough to see him justify the $750k per increase for one additional year. I personally think the Bouma contract has completely changed how Tree deals with these players. Not wanting to get into an arbitration issue he walks away from Colborne and Chiasson. Now he gives Ferland a shorter term deal to mitigate the risk that he doesn't take a step forward. The concern is Ferland becomes a monster power forward and the Flames have a hard time keeping him when he hits UFA in 2 years at 27

I agree and we can assume Tre did too. I'm happy with 2 years. If Ferland thrives and Calgary becomes the team we all think they can be, there is a good chance Ferland will be gone.

He's likely not a core player, and the non- core players on good teams need to be reshuffled from time to time to stay cheap.


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[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

If bennett gets 2.5 I hope its for 5 years...

I wouldn't hold out any hope of that happening.


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[Stay Golden]

This is an extremely fair contract for the Flames. I have even more respect for Ferland agreeing to avoid arbitration and not signing a 2-2.5m per contract.
Treliving made a very Calgary favorable deal.
I am really excited to see what Ferland will do this year.

[Textcritic]

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Has Treliving participated in an arb. hearing yet in his time in Calgary? (Byron, maybe?) His ability to get these things settled before then looks good on him.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

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Has Treliving participated in an arb. hearing yet in his time in Calgary? (Byron, maybe?) His ability to get these things settled before then looks good on him.

I think Bouma went to the Arb hearing but settled before the ruling. I could be wrong though.

[btimbit]

Fantastic value but wouldn't have been upset to pay a bit more for an UFA year

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

I think Bouma went to the Arb hearing but settled before the ruling. I could be wrong though.

Yup, that's what I remember as well.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by Matty81

Was hoping for 1 or 3 years... But can't argue with aav

I was hoping for 1.7M or 1.8M... but can't argue with the term.

[Roof-Daddy]

I figured 3 x $1.5, so this is right in line. Adding a little AAV and shortening the term by a year.

[soulchoice]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

https://www.nhl.com/flames/news/chan...al/c-290392082

Quote:
"It's unbelievable the character we have in our dressing room," said Ferland. "Gio (captain Mark Giordano) is a great leader and a great person. You got other guys like (Matt) Stajan who has really shown us the ropes. We definitely do have a lot of fun coming to the rink with the group we have."


This statement about Stajan sums it up perfectly. He is an ideal mentor and leader for this club even at his price tag. Not only is he a solid fourth line center who can jump up for a few games on other lines, but he is respected in the room.

Stajan isnt a top 6 anymore, but he is still a solid bottom six player. You consistently hear about the leadership of Gio and Stajan, which is grand. Now the Flames just need to take the "A" off of Brouwer and hand it to Backlund.

[savemedrzaius]

I see this as a great deal. Didn't realize Ferland and Hyman were drafted in the same round in the same draft. Both have similar point totals. Hyman has played less games but also his point totals are inflated by playing with Matthews.

Leafs just signed Hyman to a 4 year 9 million deal.

If Flames fans had to choose for Ferland; do you like the current deal or would you rather Ferland have Hyman's deal?

[Strange Brew]

Isn't it very rare to actually go to arbitration anymore?

[handgroen]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

I see this as a great deal. Didn't realize Ferland and Hyman were drafted in the same round in the same draft. Both have similar point totals. Hyman has played less games but also his point totals are inflated by playing with Matthews.

Leafs just signed Hyman to a 4 year 9 million deal.

If Flames fans had to choose for Ferland; do you like the current deal or would you rather Ferland have Hyman's deal?

this deal, good to have the flexibility