06-28-2017, 08:43 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by username
In years 6-8 that is going to look like a bargain if the cap keeps going up. People were saying the same thing when sid signed for 12 years at 8.7 but now it's one of the best contracts in hockey.
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That's the thing, I am not sure assuming the cap will go up is a safe assumption.
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06-28-2017, 08:45 AM
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#62
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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As some of said, having a player that gets that kind of money is a good thing to have, if the Flames had the "McDavid problem" I'd be ecstatic.
But it does raise some issues, and takes away a lot of wiggle room. The Penguins have done really well to be top heavy for years, but they've developed a lot of good young talent, not an Oiler strong point. They really can't make mistakes, and you could argue they already have two in Lucic and Russell.
Comes down to crude oil oddly enough. Crude goes back to $100 the Canadian dollar will go back to par, and the Canadian teams will bring in 30% more revenue, and the cap will go up every year.
Crude stays at $40 and we could even see a cap contraction.
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06-28-2017, 08:47 AM
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#63
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Franchise Player
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McDavid got paid, as he should and would with most teams. It is good that the oilers could lock him up for the max term.
Will be interesting to see how they fill out their roster when the contract kicks in next year. The Lucic contract will start to become a burden soon enough.
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06-28-2017, 08:48 AM
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#64
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I believe in the Jays.
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I think that's an entirely fair deal. He's arguably the best player in the world right now and he'll unarguably be the best player in the world soon.
Yes, it's a lot and they'll forever have to dance around it with regards to the Cap. But he's more then worth it.
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06-28-2017, 08:50 AM
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#65
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by habernac
LOL, my best pal is a big Oiler fan. "Connor won't cripple the team with a big money deal, he'll take $9 million a season." No he won't.
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Heh.
McDavid won't cripple the Oilers at $13 million either. Russel and Lucic at $10 million, OTOH...
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06-28-2017, 08:52 AM
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#66
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Bingo
As some of said, having a player that gets that kind of money is a good thing to have, if the Flames had the "McDavid problem" I'd be ecstatic.
But it does raise some issues, and takes away a lot of wiggle room. The Penguins have done really well to be top heavy for years, but they've developed a lot of good young talent, not an Oiler strong point. They really can't make mistakes, and you could argue they already have two in Lucic and Russell...
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That is all true, but I think the most significantly glaring difference between the Oilers and the Penguins is the difference between Draisaitl and Malkin. Malkin might be the second best player in the NHL over the course of his career, and I don't think Draisaitl will ever get close to that. It is not just that Pittsburgh is top-heavy—it is more that they have had the advantage of icing the two best centres on the planet every night.
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06-28-2017, 08:53 AM
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#67
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Oct 2016
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Meh he's worth it. I'd gladly take him at that price. He's going to dominate the league for the next decade plus. Hardly handcuffing them
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06-28-2017, 08:54 AM
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#68
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
This just enforces the fact that Charelli is a piss poor negotiator. I mean you couldn't talk McDavid and his camp down from 13.5? I realize he just won a bunch of awards and is the 2nd coming but could he not point out the fact that if McDavid wants to be on a great team he needs to have some cap flexibility. I have no doubt in my mind that Treliving would've been able to negotiate this better. He kept Johnny, Mony, and Hamilton all below the Gio cap.
But hey, when your handing out 4 million to Russell and 6 million to Lucic how do you try and talk McDavid into < 13.5?
Charelli's gonna have this team in cap hell in 2 years easy.
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Ha, you sound like an Oiler fan expecting McDavid to sign for way less than market value just to help the team!
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06-28-2017, 08:54 AM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Term is good for the Oilers, although they might have been smarter to pay a bit less for a year or two less UFA years, because that cap hit could be crippling, especially for a GM that isn't exactly known for cap management.
Oilers need to be veeeerrrryyyy careful about Draisaitl or they're wuixkly going to be a one line team. They don't have the development or drafting to find success like that.
Last edited by btimbit; 06-28-2017 at 08:57 AM.
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06-28-2017, 08:55 AM
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#70
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Franchise Player
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Now it's time to crush the $6 million AAV Draisaitl dreams.
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06-28-2017, 08:56 AM
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#71
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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The money is pretty much what I expected. The term -I thought he'd not give up many, if any, UFA years. And not just because he wants even more as a UFA (frankly, I don't think the money changes much for him as a UFA versus RFA). I thought it would be shorter to some degree to get out of Edmonton (which I don't think is as big a factor despite my disdain for all things Edmonton). But mostly I thought it would be shorter to lessen the effect a new CBA has on existing contracts (in at least one instance a new CBA rolled back wages on existing contracts). Maybe that's not the prediction for a new CBA.
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06-28-2017, 08:56 AM
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First Line Centre
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IMO even though getting Mcdavid for 8 years at 13.25 isn't a bad contract for the Oilers I think Chirelli's mistake is signing McDavid first and Drasaitl second. I think Drasaitl is a very good player but playing on a line with McDavid all season I question if you put him on a different line/team would he get 80 points? If Monahan played with McDavid all year I think he could get 40 goals and 75 points. Gaudreau with McDavid? I could see both of them over 100. So is Drasailtl worth more than 7 mil? IMO about 7 mil is fair but now that they have given McDavid 13.25 how do you tell Drasaitl who had 77 points and outscored/played McDavid in the playoffs that he is worth just over half of what McDavid is? To me this could push Drasaitl's deal to 8 or more on 8 years and if that happens how do the resign Maroon, Strome, Letestu, Caggulia, Nurse, Benning who all are free agents next summer? This could be a huge mess for them
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06-28-2017, 08:57 AM
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#73
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by btimbit
Term is good for the Oilers, although they might have been smarter to pay a bit less for a year or two less UFA years, because that cap hit could be crippling, especially for a Game that isn't exactly known for cap management...
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I suspect that was never an option. McDavid is basically doing the Oilers a huge favour by signing a five-year deal with the same number attached to the remaining three years.
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06-28-2017, 08:58 AM
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#74
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Lot of money, but a good problem to have. I think it's a pretty fair contract.
Too bad he couldn't squeeze another million or so out of them
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06-28-2017, 09:00 AM
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#75
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Franchise Player
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The might be the only $8mil+ contract in the NHL which won't have a No-Trade Clause in it.
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06-28-2017, 09:00 AM
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#76
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First Line Centre
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What part of "Get to UFA asap so you can make big bucks faster" does McDingus not understand?
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06-28-2017, 09:01 AM
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#77
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: The toilet of Alberta : Edmonton
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Originally Posted by burnitdown
Ha, you sound like an Oiler fan expecting McDavid to sign for way less than market value just to help the team!
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Not at all. Oilers fans thought he would sign for under 12 million because he's a loyal guy. I knew he wouldn't sign for less than that because Charelli doesn't know how to negotiate.
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06-28-2017, 09:02 AM
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#78
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Eight years is a major win for the Oilers. Not sure why the McDavid camp would go that route unless they feel the salary cap has kind of plateaued which is very possible.
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06-28-2017, 09:05 AM
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#79
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
The might be the only $8mil+ contract in the NHL which won't have a No-Trade Clause in it.
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He's not eligible for a NTC/NMC until he's UFA eligible. But I would be willing to bet the final four years of the deal has one. Likely just hasn't been reported yet.
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06-28-2017, 09:05 AM
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#80
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Vancouver, B.C.
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lol. Please be true!
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