"Snack Shaming"?! Is this a thing now?

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

As the parent said, the teacher took it away and replaced food items that were un-eaten.

Having your banana bread taken away is not the same as having it thrown out though. If he was given it back for lunch, there's no problem. Or shouldn't be.

It's healthy snack time for the children, they should be eating a healthy snack, only. It's a great policy, and I hope some fat-logic parent doesn't take this away.

[nfotiu]

The article is a little vague. It sounds like they were doing a health unit on eating where the assignment was to bring in a fresh fruit or vegetable. It wasn't just every day snack time. At least that is how I was reading it.

[Oling_Roachinen]

More I think about it, (and I really wasn't sure where I stood when I first read it), the more I think the teacher should be applauded.

It would be super easy to just let this kid eat on this banana bread, have him go his whole life thinking it was a healthy snack (after all, he eats it during healthy snack time), never realizing it has 8x the calories of an apple. Then we wonder why half the population is overweight.

The fact that the teacher supplied the boy with oranges and apples to eat is fantastic. I'm not sure why there's an issue there. As long as the banana bread wasn't thrown away, and only confiscated during the healthy snack break, it's great. Of course if there was a medical issue like diabetes that required exceptions to be made, but forcing kids to eat a healthy snack during a time designated to eat a healthy snack is not something anyone should be mad about.

Communication should be better, but I'm not sure if a person trying to make a big deal out of her son being given an apple is the most trustworthy person anyways.

[TurdFerguson]

Just another reason why I never send any food with my kids. Their low blood sugar also helps to keep them docile and generally more amicable for the teachers.

[undercoverbrother]

I am gonna have to see the recipe for banana bread prior to being outraged or calling it unhealthy.

[TurdFerguson]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I am gonna have to see the recipe for banana bread prior to being outraged or calling it unhealthy.

Spoiler!

[Northendzone]

to me it is unbeleiveable that grown adults could not work this out amongst themselves and the parent had to drag the paper into it.

the child is autistic which to me is very different that being a picky eater.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I am gonna have to see the recipe for banana bread prior to being outraged or calling it unhealthy.

That's a fair stance, but I have a feeling that if it was some type of low calorie healthy banana bread, this mother would have brought that up.

If this was just a normal banana bread, depending on the size of the slice, there's a good chance it has as many or more calories than a chocolate bar and outside of some potassium, no healthy nutritional value.

[LanceUppercut]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

More I think about it, (and I really wasn't sure where I stood when I first read it), the more I think the teacher should be applauded.

It would be super easy to just let this kid eat on this banana bread, have him go his whole life thinking it was a healthy snack (after all, he eats it during healthy snack time), never realizing it has 8x the calories of an apple. Then we wonder why half the population is overweight.

The fact that the teacher supplied the boy with oranges and apples to eat is fantastic. I'm not sure why there's an issue there. As long as the banana bread wasn't thrown away, and only confiscated during the healthy snack break, it's great. Of course if there was a medical issue like diabetes that required exceptions to be made, but forcing kids to eat a healthy snack during a time designated to eat a healthy snack is not something anyone should be mad about.

Communication should be better, but I'm not sure if a person trying to make a big deal out of her son being given an apple is the most trustworthy person anyways.

Did you miss the part about the kid being Autistic? This child will go hungry rather than eat a "healthy" snack if it is in his brain. You choose, hungry kid or a somewhat unhealthy snack. My son is in the process of being diagnosed right now and it is a daily struggle to find something he will actually eat. Take your high and mighty "they should be applauded" and shove it right up your ass.

[The Yen Man]

I think both the teacher and the parent are equally at fault, and the poor kid is being made the centre of their childish feud. As some other poster mentioned, they're both adults. Sit down and work it out like adults do.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

More I think about it, (and I really wasn't sure where I stood when I first read it), the more I think the teacher should be applauded.

It would be super easy to just let this kid eat on this banana bread, have him go his whole life thinking it was a healthy snack (after all, he eats it during healthy snack time), never realizing it has 8x the calories of an apple. Then we wonder why half the population is overweight.

The fact that the teacher supplied the boy with oranges and apples to eat is fantastic. I'm not sure why there's an issue there. As long as the banana bread wasn't thrown away, and only confiscated during the healthy snack break, it's great. Of course if there was a medical issue like diabetes that required exceptions to be made, but forcing kids to eat a healthy snack during a time designated to eat a healthy snack is not something anyone should be mad about.

Communication should be better, but I'm not sure if a person trying to make a big deal out of her son being given an apple is the most trustworthy person anyways.

Strongly disagree with you here. She sent the kid out in the hallway to eat the banana bread. The most charitable way of seeing that is that his mom sucks so she punished the kid. That is never acceptable.

I also don't see where you are making the assumption that this snack time is a designated healthy snack time

“They told me they only allow fresh fruits and vegetables for snack time,” she said, noting there are limited foods he will actually eat.

^^ From the mom: This sounds like it applies to all snacks everyday and not just during a week long unit on health.

“Staff may support students with learning and behaviour related to any activity during the day,” the statement said. “Sometimes this occurs as students are having a snack. In these circumstances, the actions staff takes are not related to a nutritional choice or snack a parent has sent.

From the CBE: The teacher shouldn't be judging based on nutritional value of the snack sent.

“I found out the teacher has taken his banana bread away (in the past) and replaced it with something else.”

And she took away the banana bread with no indication that it was returned and the kid isn't eating the replacement food.

I think what would be reasonable here would be to take the snack time and look at everyones snacks and discuss why some are more healthy than others. So the banana bread could be a discussion point that just because it has banana in the title the added sugar makes it not as healthy as a fruit or a vegetable. Or the banana bread might be a no added sugar bread with zucchini mixed in and actually have 3 servings of vegatables and no added sugar and a quite healthy snack. Using it as a teachable moment would be productive.

Instead the teacher punished the kid because his mom wouldn't follow the lesson plan. Regardless of circumstances punishing the kid for the parents behaviour should never happen.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by LanceUppercut

Did you miss the part about the kid being Autistic? This child will go hungry rather than eat a "healthy" snack if it is in his brain. You choose, hungry kid or a somewhat unhealthy snack. My son is in the process of being diagnosed right now and it is a daily struggle to find something he will actually eat. Take your high and mighty "they should be applauded" and shove it right up your ass.

Did you miss the part about his mother sometimes packing oranges and apples?

“I definitely know I haven’t always packed apples and oranges, and he still comes back with them,” she said.

It's not that he won't eat them, evidently the mother has packed them for him before.

Banana bread is as bad as a chocolate bar. If all he got for food was 5 chocolate bars to eat, would you have an issue? The parent needs to find a healthy balance for this child, even if he's a picky eater. In the mean time, not letting him eat banana bread during the healthy snack time is ####ing fantastic. Wait until lunch, if he's that hungry he can eat an apple like he's done before.

[CliffFletcher]

Inflexible dietary dogma is so dumb. Yes, fresh fruits and vegetables are better than cake and chocolate bars. But everything in moderation. We typically send our kids to school with something like: ham sandwich, apple, cucumber, treat - where the treat can be a couple cookies, a packaged rice crispy square, or banana bread. A blanket prohibition on sweet treats is the kind of thing set up in an environment where there's no sense of nuance or discretion.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Inflexible dietary dogma is so dumb. Yes, fresh fruits and vegetables are better than cake and chocolate bars. But everything in moderation. We typically send our kids to school with something like: ham sandwich, apple, cucumber, treat - where the treat can be a couple cookies, a packaged rice crispy square, or banana bread. A blanket prohibition on sweet treats is the kind of thing set up in an environment where there's no sense of nuance or discretion.

You horrible horrible man.


You don't love your kids.


https://authoritynutrition.com/why-p...d-meat-is-bad/

Food products categorized as processed meat include:

Sausages, hot dogs, salami.
Bacon, ham.
Salted and cured meat, corned beef.
Smoked meat.
Dried meat, beef jerky.
Canned meat.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by GGG

Strongly disagree with you here. She sent the kid out in the hallway to eat the banana bread. The most charitable way of seeing that is that his mom sucks so she punished the kid. That is never acceptable.

He was given apples and oranges before. If he wanted to partake in the healthy snack time, he had the opportunity to do so. There's probably 30 other kids in that class, if you let Timmy eat a chocolate bar, why can't Sandy?

Originally Posted by GGG

I also don't see where you are making the assumption that this snack time is a designated healthy snack time


^^ From the mom: This sounds like it applies to all snacks everyday and not just during a week long unit on health.

I hope it does apply to all snacks everyday. Assuming they get a snack time at like 10:00, what's wrong in only allowing it to be a healthy snack? If you want to eat unhealthy, wait until lunch. Meh, if gym class never existed and someone decided that for an hour a day students would be forced to partake in exercise that they may not like, the same people complaining about a time designated for a healthy snack would be having a ####fit over that.

Originally Posted by GGG

From the CBE: The teacher shouldn't be judging based on nutritional value of the snack sent.

Why not?

Originally Posted by GGG

And she took away the banana bread with no indication that it was returned and the kid isn't eating the replacement food.

Also no indication it wasn't returned.

Originally Posted by GGG

Instead the teacher punished the kid because his mom wouldn't follow the lesson plan. Regardless of circumstances punishing the kid for the parents behaviour should never happen.

I don't disagree, but he was given the opportunity to partake. He could have ate an apple, he could have waited for lunch to eat his banana bread. Of course this is confusing for the child because the teacher is trying to teach students about healthy snacks while his mom doesn't understand, but this is more on the mother.


I was a fat kid even though I was active because I was a picky eater and ate gushers (which also had real fruit flavour!) for snacks and pizza pops and coke for lunch. I wish I had a policy that forced me to eat a healthy snack when I was his age.

There's an epidemic, half the population is overweight, a quarter are obese. Something needs to be done. Too many enablers nowadays, the idea that there's outrage that a 250 calorie "snack" with little nutritional value was taking away from a student during a healthy snack time, is the exact reason why we've reached the numbers we have.

[tete]

My daughter is in kindergarten this year and I struggle with her lunches/snacks because I fear of being "snack shamed". While I get that commercial banana bread can be unhealthy, I can make a banana bread with little to no extra sugar, whole wheat flour and a bit of oil/butter. It's healthier than some of the commercial bread (that I slather with butter) that I send in her lunch right now. Thankfully her school takes a passive approach to lunches (strict no nuts, but otherwise gently encouraging balanced lunches) and doesn't police heavily, I'd be very upset if they started doing so.

[The Yen Man]

I find it kind of ironic that schools promote inclusiveness and anti-bullying, but will resort to outing kids to teach them a lesson.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

I was a fat kid even though I was active because I was a picky eater and ate gushers (which also had real fruit flavour!) for snacks and pizza pops and coke for lunch. I wish I had a policy that forced me to eat a healthy snack when I was his age.

There's an epidemic, half the population is overweight, a quarter are obese. Something needs to be done. Too many enablers nowadays, the idea that there's outrage that a 250 calorie "snack" with little nutritional value was taking away from a student during a healthy snack time, is the exact reason why we've reached the numbers we have.

There certainly is a lot of outrage to around.

[habernac]

Oling obviously has zero experience with autistic kids.

[OutOfTheCube]

Sounds like everyone is missing the part where it's banana bread.

What's next, you guys telling me carrot cake isn't an acceptably healthy snack too?