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Old 04-18-2024, 12:35 PM   #1601
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For all we know he tested the FA market.
Backlund re-signed with a year remaining on his current deal. How was he supposed to test the FA market in those circumstances?
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Old 04-18-2024, 12:41 PM   #1602
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To change the discussion away from how Gaudreau left again...what Flames veterans could be moved this offseason:

Yes:
Markstrom: I've heard this is all but a certainty, think he's done.
Mangiapane: Think they'd like to move him and he wants a change but think the market is going to be really soft for him, as it has been for wingers each of the past 3-4 offseasons.

Maybe
Kadri: He's the biggest question mark to me...rumours are he's happy here...but to me he's played the second half of this season like a guy trying to prove to contenders he's still got it.
Coleman: A guy you'd think playoff teams would be clamoring to get...but think the Flames want to keep him.
Andersson: Likely comes down to indications of if he's going to be willing to re-sign in a year. Personally I think they should be shopping him at maximum value.

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Huberdeau: Seems unlikely anybody takes his contract
Backlund: Next offseason or trade deadline is the earliest I could see him moving if at all
Weegar: He's here long term as the bridge through the rebuild.
Sharangovich: Another guy I think they try to re-sign and keep long term
Kuzmenko: Feels like a guy they wait until next deadline to shop.
If it looks like Andersson is not planning to sign an extension next year, what teams would likely be targeting him and what could the flames get? He has two years left on his deal at a very reasonable cap hit. He’s a legit top pairing defenceman on most teams.
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Old 04-18-2024, 12:57 PM   #1603
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Backlund actually came off a very good year last season.

‘This is a rule, it's the way things always are, and your exception doesn't count because shut up’ is not a valid argument.
above average year yes I'll give you that
but
Ignoring the flat cap and the multiple teams capped out then some odd attempt at pity with a strange comment at the end.

again, speaking in absolutes when it fits you and exhibiting that comprehension is not a strong suit.

impressive
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Old 04-18-2024, 01:01 PM   #1604
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Backlund re-signed with a year remaining on his current deal. How was he supposed to test the FA market in those circumstances?
Ah, fair enough. I didn't follow his contract renewal closely at all.

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Old 04-18-2024, 01:06 PM   #1605
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Getting him for cheap as in, Carolina throws in a sweetener, right?
They wouldn’t have to. 2nd pairing d-men don’t grow on trees. There would be more than one team interested in Orlov and who could fit him into their cap.
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Old 04-18-2024, 01:08 PM   #1606
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Seems like a lot of scar tissue in recent discussions.

Lets try and take each topic on without all the personal history guiding it into a lot of pissiness.
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You may have missed this article from last week.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...tment-to-stay/
He gets a permanent A next season right?
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If it looks like Andersson is not planning to sign an extension next year, what teams would likely be targeting him and what could the flames get? He has two years left on his deal at a very reasonable cap hit. He’s a legit top pairing defenceman on most teams.
If I had to guess what teams would be interested potentially:

Buffalo
Ottawa
Detroit
Tampa Bay
Winnipeg
Carolina

Buffalo, Ottawa, and Detroit all need a dman...all play in the same division...and are all looking to take a step next year.

Honestly I think if you could get a bidding war between those teams you could potentially get a great return.

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Old 04-18-2024, 01:21 PM   #1609
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He gets a permanent A next season right?
Probably. Personally I think he's our best player.
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Old 04-18-2024, 03:32 PM   #1610
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We've heard this before from our guys who have since been moved because they wanted out...

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Old 04-18-2024, 03:34 PM   #1611
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He is only 26? He looks like he is 45.
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Old 04-18-2024, 04:27 PM   #1612
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Backlund and Conroy both mentioned legacy after Backlund was re-signed.



I am sure that winning a cup would be first on his list, but you can go cup chasing and never get close, like Iginla. So the next greatest thing for Backlund would be to finish off his legacy here in Calgary. It is not nothing, that's for sure. It is probably a lot more than what Gaudreau will accomplish in his career when everything is said and done. If Gaudreau doesn't win a cup in Columbus, then who will really remember him when his career is over? It is likely that his best years on his stats would be his Calgary years. He had 19K fans chanting his name often during his career. He would have climbed up those franchise records and eventually would have even had his jersey retired when everything was said and done. All of that is gone for Gaudreau unless he can deliver a cup to Columbus. He will otherwise be more or less forgotten about as the years pass after he retires.



Backlund spoke to a number of players about it before he signed, including Giordano and Iginla (I vaguely remember him mentioning Iginla, but maybe I am wrong). I am sure if there was a guarantee of him picking his spot and his spot actually winning the cup, then of course that's what he would choose. However, I think the choice for him was either a substantially less than 50% chance (to say the least) of winning a cup or finishing your career off in Calgary being the captain of the only team you have ever played for. He chose the latter. I can't imagine that he changes his mind now.


There is something special about having played a long career with only one franchise. You simply just rarely ever see it now, especially if you are not a superstar player.
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Why is he dressed like George Costanza
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He is only 26? He looks like he is 45.
Sounds about right. He looked like he was 28 when he was 18
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Old 04-18-2024, 04:40 PM   #1615
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Not sure where you fit everyone. That’s the main reason I didn’t think they would be resigned. If there was room I would definitely keep Greer. He’s got grit and that’s something we don’t have a surplus of.
sorry i forgot that part, i don't think Duehr will be back and that Greer would take his spot.
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Why is he dressed like George Costanza
Because George Costanza is a fashion icon.
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For forwards I think Rooney and Greer make a stellar 2/3rds of a 4th line.

Move on from Mang, Dueher for sure. Hunt could be an option to stay on the 4th line.

Not sure where else the Flames can makes upgrade in the top 9. Huberdeau isn't going anywhere, Kadri isn't either, and Coleman seems pretty happy too.
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They wouldn’t have to. 2nd pairing d-men don’t grow on trees. There would be more than one team interested in Orlov and who could fit him into their cap.
Sure but I wouldn't want the Flames to give up something of value considering they're probably helping out the Hurricanes by taking his $7.75M salary off their hands. That's a scenario where I'd want Conroy to use leverage.
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Old 04-18-2024, 05:08 PM   #1619
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So folks requiring a contract for next season are:
Klapka (RFA)
Greer
Pelletier (RFA)
Killington
Solovyov (RFA)
Okhotiuk (RFA)
Gilbert
WOLF! (RFA)

Who's sticking around? I though Greer was dynamite. Obviously Wolf is priority. Solo is promising too. Killington I would imagine stays.

Thoughts?
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"I have honestly not thought about that."

I don't believe that. Nobody is going to believe that.
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