The whole Daily Stormer drama is a rather interesting side show to what's going on. Go Daddy, Google and Cloudflare have all kicked the site off their services, essentially banning it from the internet. The actions raise interesting questions about the ability of private companies to control the internet - topical given the FCC's current efforts to undermine net neutrality - and about the Streisand Effect having a negative consequence as the site's profile is now dramatically higher than it once was. It will pull in new readers and supporters whenever it finds a new home. Even Cloudflare's CEO is concerned about his own decision to punt the site.
I'm pretty comfortable with private companies being able to choose not to host a site in extreme circumstances.
I wouldn't raise an eyebrow if Google punted a child porn website off the net, and likewise, I'm not too concerned about anyone punting a Nazi website off the net.
There are things that the vast majority of society has decided is *not acceptable* due to their endangerment of vulnerable lives, let's stick to that.
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Yeah, examples like Nazi websites and child porn are easy, we all pretty much agree that these things are beyond the pale. It's more the stuff like ex-Muslim activists getting their pages pulled down through reporting campaigns, or someone like Stephen Knight getting repeatedly banned from twitter, that you get into grey areas about the degree of control private enterprises currently have over the dissemination of information and the communication of ideas.
There's an inherent tension between the desire to let businesses decide for themselves how to run their platforms and let the market decide what impact those decisions have, and not wanting those businesses to be able to effectively shape the zeitgeist to their whims. That tension isn't really central to our concerns here, because Nazis. But it's probably worth dealing with at some other time in some other context.
__________________ "The great promise of the Internet was that more information would automatically yield better decisions. The great disappointment is that more information actually yields more possibilities to confirm what you already believed anyway." - Brian Eno
One of the guys featured is now crying and terrified. Now saying that they went out of their way to be non-violent when he says in that Vice video "we’re not nonviolent, we’ll ####ing kill these people if we have to."
I wish I could thank this post 1000 times. Awesome.
Watching this ####### cry his eyes out proclaiming his innocence a day or two after his tough guy act on the Vice report made my day.
I'm pretty comfortable with private companies being able to choose not to host a site in extreme circumstances.
I wouldn't raise an eyebrow if Google punted a child porn website off the net, and likewise, I'm not too concerned about anyone punting a Nazi website off the net.
There are things that the vast majority of society has decided is *not acceptable* due to their endangerment of vulnerable lives, let's stick to that.
So am I... but Google is different, it controls the information you see...same with Facebook to an extent... In this case there was good reason - making fun of Heather was grounds....dumb ideas aren't.
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Hilarious. I'd say this might make them rethink their ways, but people who believe in racial purity/superiorty dogmas don't have a lot of perspective or critical thinking to begin with.
What looks like a rather large group of people all turning themselves in for the "crime" of removing statues of traitors in Durham NC. This made me grin, not gonna lie.
Indeed. As someone on that Twitter thread noted, it's quite a difference in comparison to the "Alt-Reich", as they called it. I think that's an excellent name change. Alt-Reich.
