Ongoing US Mass Shooting Thread

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Fired a machine gun while in the reserves. That was pretty neat but I didn't consider making it a part of my life. I grew up around guns, started with a cork gun, than a BB gun, got a 22 at ten years old, done some hunting and skeet shooting but never had a desire to carry on with it.

I loved, LOVED going to the ranges. I loved the smell, the shooting, the cleaning of the weapon I loved it all (except being in the butts in the winter).

I fired pretty well every man operated weapon in the forces at the time.

I have not touched a weapon since I got out. To be honest, I would love to fire again, I would love to own/shoot again, but I think that strick control of weapons overrides my desire to shoot.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I loved, LOVED going to the ranges. I loved the smell, the shooting, the cleaning of the weapon I loved it all (except being in the butts in the winter).

I fired pretty well every man operated weapon in the forces at the time.

I have not touched a weapon since I got out. To be honest, I would love to fire again, I would love to own/shoot again, but I think that strick control of weapons overrides my desire to shoot.

I used to like cleaning my 30-30 while watching Flames games. I found it relaxing.

[Temporary_User]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

This is from NRA Youth Day

Did you take this photo? It reminds me of sitting on my dad's lap learning how to drive as a youngster.

I would love to get my niece and nephew out and educated about the dangers and proper techniques of gun control by trained professionals.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Temporary_User

Did you take this photo? It reminds me of sitting on my dad's lap learning how to drive as a youngster.

I would love to get my niece and nephew out and educated about the dangers and proper techniques of gun control by trained professionals.

As someone who strongly agrees with educating children and adults on the safe methods of handling a firearm, I totally agree. For me, it's a safety thing.

What the NRA does as an organization is the complete opposite of that.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I used to like cleaning my 30-30 while watching Flames games. I found it relaxing.

Lose any TV's that way?

[evman150]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

As someone who strongly agrees with educating children and adults on the safe methods of handling a firearm, I totally agree. For me, it's a safety thing.

What the NRA does as an organization is the complete opposite of that.

Or you can just not expose your kids to guns.

I'm 27 and I've never seen a gun in my life (unholstered). I have no idea what I'm going to do if the apocalypse happens and I don't know how to use one!

But seriously, unless you live in the sticks there is zero reason to ever see a gun, let alone learn about the things.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by evman150

Or you can just not expose your kids to guns.

I'm 27 and I've never seen a gun in my life (unholstered). I have no idea what I'm going to do if the apocalypse happens and I don't know how to use one!

But seriously, unless you live in the sticks there is zero reason to ever see a gun, let alone learn about the things.

What if you and the kids are cleaning up grandpa's attic and come across his old shotgun?

The child is out of your supervision but has a friend who has access to a firearm that they shouldn't.

I agree with you, but it's for the scenarios where supervision isn't available. Kids shouldn't be picking up needles on the ground either, but I'm going to inform them that while all parts of the needle can be dangerous, the tip is especially dangerous.

Kids i'm with still come and get me if there's something they think is dangerous.

I don't think education is ever harmful for those instances.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Lose any TV's that way?

I have an old high school buddy who blasted out his sliding glass door that way. Oops.

[RyZ]

Originally Posted by evman150

Or you can just not expose your kids to guns.

I'm 27 and I've never seen a gun in my life (unholstered). I have no idea what I'm going to do if the apocalypse happens and I don't know how to use one!

But seriously, unless you live in the sticks there is zero reason to ever see a gun, let alone learn about the things.

Agreed. I am 34, born and raised in Calgary, and have never even seen a gun in my life that was not holstered on a cops hip. My kids won't be exposed to them any more than I ever was. Living in the city and not being a hunting enthusiast there is just no reason for it what so ever.

[MelBridgeman]

Grew up in Forest Lawn/Dover

Seen guns a plenty

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Lose any TV's that way?

No but it wasn't as relaxing for the wife so eventually I had to put my toy away.

[wittynickname]

So in the US we don't let children operate motor vehicles until they're a certain age and then ensure that they pass a permit exam, and then a driving test. Why can't we keep 9 year olds from holding an uzi? Airsoft gun, pellet gun, even a hunting rifle, okay, if you can responsibly teach your child to use something like that, whatever. But I don't think 9 year olds need to have access in any way to automatic weapons.

I don't think anyone outside of active military in a war zone needs access to automatic weapons, frankly.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

This is from NRA Youth Day

LOL. These are all oversized, cheap, plastic airsoft guns and not real guns. This is likely a mis-attributed photo from a panicking parent picked up by lazy/bad NY Daily News tabloid journalists. I don't see any evidence it's actually from the NRA as they would make fun of these as being "toys". Note the white plastic BB's everywhere, orange tips, and the batteries for the rifles.

[Locke]

I dont have any problems with education regarding firearms, we're fortunate enough to live in a very safe place where that education would be a form of entertainment.

However, it has to be said that these people trying to educate children about firearms are doing a piss poor job of it. I thought they were supposed to know what they're doing? Are they certified, card-carrying morons?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

LOL. These are all oversized, cheap, plastic airsoft guns and not real guns. This is likely a mis-attributed photo from a panicking parent picked up by lazy/bad NY Daily News tabloid journalists. I don't see any evidence it's actually from the NRA as they would make fun of these as being "toys". Note the white plastic BB's everywhere, orange tips, and the batteries for the rifles.

Sorry, aren't airsoft "guns" specs (perhaps not weight) the same as real weapons. I thought they were built to the same size/specs.


I also thought the basic operation of these "guns" is the same as actual weapons, ie: saftey, sighting, loading, etc.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

What if you and the kids are cleaning up grandpa's attic and come across his old shotgun?

The child is out of your supervision but has a friend who has access to a firearm that they shouldn't.

I agree with you, but it's for the scenarios where supervision isn't available. Kids shouldn't be picking up needles on the ground either, but I'm going to inform them that while all parts of the needle can be dangerous, the tip is especially dangerous.

Kids i'm with still come and get me if there's something they think is dangerous.

I don't think education is ever harmful for those instances.

If I'm cleaning out the attic and find a shotgun I'd call the police to take it away not think 'hmm maybe I should try this bad boy out??'

As a parent child care worker and foster parent I can assure you regardless of any amount of education unsupervised teenage boys left with guns or cars or almost anything else will do something stupid and dangerous and hurt/kill either themselves or someone standing nearby.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

So in the US we don't let children operate motor vehicles until they're a certain age and then ensure that they pass a permit exam, and then a driving test. Why can't we keep 9 year olds from holding an uzi? Airsoft gun, pellet gun, even a hunting rifle, okay, if you can responsibly teach your child to use something like that, whatever. But I don't think 9 year olds need to have access in any way to automatic weapons.

I don't think anyone outside of active military in a war zone needs access to automatic weapons, frankly.

Why can't you keep 9 year olds from holding Uzis? for the same reason you can't get anything else done, you have a broken system that is wholly owned by big business, I would have thought that was obvious.

[OzSome]

I saw this in the news last night. Some kid (i think she is 9 years old) was at the gun range with the instructor. She tried the pistol and was okay with one shot. Then the instructor gave her an automatic and she start firing but couldn't control the gun. She ended up shooting the instructor in the head and killed him. Poor kid will think about that accident for the rest of her life.

[llwhiteoutll]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Why can't you keep 9 year olds from holding Uzis? for the same reason you can't get anything else done, you have a broken system that is wholly owned by big business, I would have thought that was obvious.

You do understand that in Canada minors are allowed to fire guns with proper supervision right?

This whole thing is 100% negligence on the part of the instructor. It's obvious she can't even hold the gun, let alone control in, before she fires a single round.

Originally Posted by evman150

Or you can just not expose your kids to guns.

I'm 27 and I've never seen a gun in my life (unholstered). I have no idea what I'm going to do if the apocalypse happens and I don't know how to use one!

But seriously, unless you live in the sticks there is zero reason to ever see a gun, let alone learn about the things.

So just because you don't have a reason for one, it means there is no reason for other people not to have or use them. Got it.

Do you also feel that unless someone is a professional racer, there is no reason to own a high horsepower vehicle?

[llwhiteoutll]

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