No, he wouldn't be stuck there, assuming he signs a pretty standard deal with them like other AEW talent. Many wrestlers go work things like NJPW, AAA, Defy, GCW, and other indies while under contract to AEW.
No, he wouldn't be stuck there, assuming he signs a pretty standard deal with them like other AEW talent. Many wrestlers go work things like NJPW, AAA, Defy, GCW, and other indies while under contract to AEW.
Yeah, that's a really bizarre comment. AEW has a pretty open door policy when it comes to letting their wrestlers work for other promotions. Hell, they let Omega work dates for TNA a few years back.
I'm almost certain Tony would let some of his guys work WWE/NXT shows if he thought AEW would get good publicity out of it and/or a decent reciprocal arrangement.
lol that would never happen. Not when they're in direct competition with each other. How many times has Khan or talent in AEW taken shots at WWE? It happens all the time. No chance would that ever be allowed to happen.
You'll never see a talent in AEW crossing over like that. Not in a competitive sense. That's like saying someone from WCW would have crossed over during the Attitude Era... or TNA prior to Levesque taking over. It never happened. I remember reading the dirt sheets Dustin Rhodes wanted to be at Mania, and obviously that didn't take place.
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I mean, Ricky Starks was shown all over social media in a box cheering on Cody's win. And Bayley was in house for Mercede Mone's debut in AEW.
At the end of the day, these people are friends and promoters know that. Khan and Levesque aren't carny aholes like Vince and he territory promoters were.
Being shown on social media or on your personal pages is much different than being actively promoted by a different company. There is zero chance WWE would ever want to promote AEW. There is zero benefit for the WWE to even acknowledge the existence of another company. The question has been brought up before, and most "in the know" scoffed at the idea. Look how WWE acted when Punk was even backstage... he was immediately asked to leave.
Of course there are close friendships amongst them, and allowed to crossover on social media or gaming streams, but that's likely all you'll ever see. If anything Starks will be walking over once he's a free agent in the near future.
WWE didn't even inquire about using Mox/Ambrose at Mania. If it wasn't going to happen then, why would that change in the future?
lol that would never happen. Not when they're in direct competition with each other. How many times has Khan or talent in AEW taken shots at WWE? It happens all the time. No chance would that ever be allowed to happen.
You'll never see a talent in AEW crossing over like that. Not in a competitive sense. That's like saying someone from WCW would have crossed over during the Attitude Era... or TNA prior to Levesque taking over. It never happened. I remember reading the dirt sheets Dustin Rhodes wanted to be at Mania, and obviously that didn't take place.
You also just said that AEW doesn't let their wrestlers work for other competitors, so I'm going to hold off on pretending you know what you're talking about.
Also, I thought WWE and their fans didn't consider AEW direct competition?
WWE inquired about using Billy Gunn for a DX reunion a couple of years ago or something. AEW said they were okay with it as long as WWE mentioned AEW on air. WWE shot it down, but that was back during the Vince days.
I think there's less than a 2% chance of it happening, but I've learned to never say never when it comes to pro wrestling.
AEW would probably be okay with the agreement. Hell there biggest rating bump in months was because of a WWE cameo. WWE would never go for it. There is absolutely no benefit for WWE to feature any AEW talent... heck they cut most of them, or let them walk without a competitive offer. AEW is seen as the only viable competition; they do have a national television show after all.
I mean realistically, how many main event talents in AEW are at the same level as those in WWE? Ospreay... maybe Omega when he's healthy. Edge was never used. Swerve was cut. Joe was cut. Jericho was allowed to go. Mox was an upper mid carder. Cesaro was a mid carder. Perhaps Danielson, but he's on his last legs.
It won't happen, unless AEW shrinks to the TNA-tier of relevancy as a promotion. Indies and foreign promotions are different, because they aren't really seen as competitors by WWE. Also I'm certain Punk would play a factor, and would strike the notion down. WWE is a professionally run corporation. They're basically the McDonalds of wrestling. Which also means the quality of the food isn't the best... but they're not going to advertise Five Guys, even if McDonalds marketshare is larger.
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Tony Khan doesn't seem like someone who would be easy to get along with. He can work fine with other indie promotions because of his wallet, but he comes across as someone with a massive inferiority complex. Which explains the constant Twitter spats he's had with many in the wrestling community.
I'm done here though. When Jericho shows up on WWE television ten years from now, feel free to quote me.
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I liked it, my only gripe was Tony looks awkward in the ring. He needs to learn how to sell. Looked like a fan in the ring.
I thought it was funny when he got punched in the stomach, and then just fell to the ground and died. Three seconds later, he remembered to clutch his stomach and writhe in pain.
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I thought it was funny when he got punched in the stomach, and then just fell to the ground and died. Three seconds later, he remembered to clutch his stomach and writhe in pain.
This reminded me of when the Misfits were wrestling in WCW, and Dr. Chud got punched off the apron, and he did the most dramatic fall onto the floor.
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Its just so funny to me that Perry is trying to get over for getting beat up back stage.
In Kayfabe doesn't that happen every week and is not big deal.
Its just so funny to me that Perry is trying to get over for getting beat up back stage.
In Kayfabe doesn't that happen every week and is not big deal.
We'll see how it goes, mainly because Perry and the Bucks have the wrong kind of heat, its more go away heat then the heel heat that they want to launch a story line.
Also, when your going to launch your own heel stable along the lines of the NWO, and that's what this is, this was literally an attempt to replicate Nash Powerbombing Eric to hell, you really need to have a big threat as a heel. This feels more like we're going to get two EVP's and a hanger on against the establishment of Tony Kahn.
What would have made this angle a lot of fun is if Tony's old man would have dropped the Kahn family leg drop on Tony, and then chastized him for pissing away his money.
Then they set up Tony for the doomsday device with old man Kahn coming off of the top rope
I almost feel like this angle would have worked better if they hadn't shown the video, which showed nothing of Tony afraid for his life and Perry doing nothing against Punk.
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Its just so funny to me that Perry is trying to get over for getting beat up back stage.
In Kayfabe doesn't that happen every week and is not big deal.
It's also kind of weird structure.
The AEW Hardcore fans largely sided with the Young Bucks and Perry in the CM Punk incident...so them being labelled as heels for that audience because of the CM Punk incident's is weird. These fans look positively of Perry and don't see him as a heel at all. (Think they have actually pushed back against this EVP angle / Bucks as heels due to that)
And they aren't going to attract the CM Punk fans that left and gave them a bump when they showed the video by continuing with this faction / storyline, it will actually probably push them away more.
There is some truth I guess to the Bucks / Perry vs TK angle...since they were suspended for long periods of time. But the whole thing comes off really forced and unbelievable. Tough for me to buy that Bucks and Tony are feuding and don't like one another.
Really I think they should have actually had Perry come back as more of a "Martyr" than a "Scapegoat". Have him come back and brag about being the hero that AEW needed to rid the company of the poison that was infecting the company.
Don't explicitly call it out as "AEW Originals" vs "Ex WWE" but have him continue to have fueds with some of the EX WWE guys that fans maybe aren't loving and having a really aggressive attitude towards them, (Keith Lee, Miro, Alestair Black, Adam Cole,
Maybe that's actually the way they go here (have YBs and Perry have heat with TK for signing all these ex-WWE wrestlers) but it seems a bit forced to be entwining Tony Kahn into it TBH and could have been done without him.
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We'll see how it goes, mainly because Perry and the Bucks have the wrong kind of heat, its more go away heat then the heel heat that they want to launch a story line.
They do with casual/non-AEW fans, but they're still getting pops and chants from the live audiences (see: the ladder match at Dynasty, last night). It also seems to vary by which city they're in.
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you really need to have a big threat as a heel. This feels more like we're going to get two EVP's and a hanger on against the establishment of Tony Kahn.
That's pretty obviously Okada in this situation. I still think it was stupid to put the Continental Championship on him because it limits him from going after the true main even talents, but we'll see what happens.
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Really I think they should have actually had Perry come back as more of a "Martyr" than a "Scapegoat". Have him come back and brag about being the hero that AEW needed to rid the company of the poison that was infecting the company.
Don't explicitly call it out as "AEW Originals" vs "Ex WWE" but have him continue to have fueds with some of the EX WWE guys that fans maybe aren't loving and having a really aggressive attitude towards them.
Maybe that's actually the way they go here (have YBs and Perry have heat with TK for signing all these ex-WWE wrestlers) but it seems a bit forced to be entwining Tony Kahn into it TBH and could have been done without him.
I would hope that's the direction they're going. The best heels are the ones are the ones who believe they have legitimate grievances that the audiences can somewhat relate with, but are total scumbags with how they deal with them (Chad Gable is a great example in WWE right now).
He came off as a bit of a non-factor again last night, and really comes off non-threatening IMO.
Ospreay would have actually made more sense with the Young Bucks in that role (ie. the Kenny Omega replacement which has always kind of been Ospreay's role)
And Okada would have been better in a small faction with Take####a and Don Callis. Where Okada is the final boss, who is mentoring the next generation in Take####a, with Callis working the mic for them.
Honestly flip those two around and both factions and storylines make WAY more sense. (Especially with the current Ospreay HHH/WWE beef).
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He came off as a bit of a non-factor again last night, and really comes off non-threatening IMO.
Ospreay would have actually made more sense with the Young Bucks in that role (ie. the Kenny Omega replacement which has always kind of been Ospreay's role)
And Okada would have been better in a small faction with Take####a and Don Callis. Where Okada is the final boss, who is mentoring the next generation in Take####a, with Callis working the mic for them.
Honestly flip those two around and both factions and storylines make WAY more sense. (Especially with the current Ospreay HHH/WWE beef).
Yeah, the difference is I don't think you could possibly get Ospreay jeered at this point.
Okada did some pretty good heel work in his match with PAC and got the crowd to turn against him. He also has already done the final boss role when he was with CHAOS in NJPW, so it's more a question of if he can get that over in the North America.
EDIT: I don't have a tonne of faith in TK's booking, but this is easily the most intriguing angle AEW has initiated in quite a while.
