03-07-2017, 11:40 AM
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#941
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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^^ I can't officially thank that in good conscience, but thanks.
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From HFBoard oiler fan, in analyzing MacT's management:
O.K. there has been a lot of talk on whether or not MacTavish has actually done a good job for us, most fans on this board are very basic in their analysis and I feel would change their opinion entirely if the team was successful.
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03-07-2017, 12:15 PM
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#942
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Calgary
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Keep him barely alive, that's the way boys!
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REDVAN!
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03-07-2017, 12:32 PM
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#943
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Scoring Winger
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Every chance they get...
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03-07-2017, 12:43 PM
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#944
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Franchise Player
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Is it possible he can mount a charter challange that his rights are being violated under section 12 of charter prohibiting cruel and unusual punishment especially if he could prove negligence on the part of the prison?
And if so could that allow him to get out some how?
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03-07-2017, 12:44 PM
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#945
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not surprised...
he's going to have to spend the rest of his life in isolation at this point...
but you reap what you sow
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03-07-2017, 12:46 PM
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#946
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Norm!
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Or they decide that given his age, and the threat against him that they'll transfer him to some minimum security prison with offenders who don't want to lose their living conditions.
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03-07-2017, 12:59 PM
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#947
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Fantasy Island
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I honestly would not be surprised if he was provoking these beatings to keep his name in the news and thereby keep tormenting the family. He's an unrepentant evil psycho. I hope he dies soon.
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03-07-2017, 02:37 PM
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#948
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GGG
Is it possible he can mount a charter challange that his rights are being violated under section 12 of charter prohibiting cruel and unusual punishment especially if he could prove negligence on the part of the prison?
And if so could that allow him to get out some how?
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Not sure if serious...
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03-07-2017, 02:39 PM
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#949
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: DeWinton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peanut
I honestly would not be surprised if he was provoking these beatings to keep his name in the news and thereby keep tormenting the family. He's an unrepentant evil psycho. I hope he dies soon.
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I don't know about that. Seems a little far fetched. The man is a straight out coward. Psychopaths are pussys.
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03-07-2017, 02:40 PM
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#950
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GGG
Is it possible he can mount a charter challange that his rights are being violated under section 12 of charter prohibiting cruel and unusual punishment especially if he could prove negligence on the part of the prison?
And if so could that allow him to get out some how?
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No, he would get a payout and the jail would up its level of supervision but nothing gets him out.
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03-07-2017, 05:43 PM
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#951
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Franchise Player
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i have a lot of mixed emotions when I read this
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03-07-2017, 05:59 PM
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#952
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Retired
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Nathan O'Brien was five years old, and Douglas Garland killed him.
The institution that has him incarcerated will need to protect him better than they have, I suppose.
Trying to be a civilized person, one needs to contemplate punishment. This is a passage to remember and it has a lot of wisdom and in many ways reflects why we do not have capital punishment:
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.” --Nietzsche
Depsite this, if on the odd chance I met one of the assailants of the second assault in a pub after their release, I'd make sure his drinks were covered.
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03-07-2017, 07:05 PM
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#953
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I'm kind off surprised by this. I would have thought he would be checked in to special handling upon his arrival at Edmonton max...
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03-07-2017, 07:08 PM
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#954
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Over the hill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Delgar
Nathan O'Brien was five years old, and Douglas Garland killed him.
The institution that has him incarcerated will need to protect him better than they have, I suppose.
Trying to be a civilized person, one needs to contemplate punishment. This is a passage to remember and it has a lot of wisdom and in many ways reflects why we do not have capital punishment:
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.” --Nietzsche
Depsite this, if on the odd chance I met one of the assailants of the second assault in a pub after their release, I'd make sure his drinks were covered.
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I think I feel the same way. In principle, we should take steps to ensure our prisons are safe, and not chaotic and lawless places where vigilante justice steps in where the state cannot go.
In practice? It is really hard to feel bad for a monster like that.
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03-07-2017, 07:09 PM
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#955
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peanut
I honestly would not be surprised if he was provoking these beatings to keep his name in the news and thereby keep tormenting the family. He's an unrepentant evil psycho. I hope he dies soon.
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He is a scumbag and nothing would surprise me. Another thing that is possible is he's provoking the attacks to get sent to the hospital where he thinks a chance at an escape may be possible.
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03-07-2017, 08:06 PM
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#956
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgaryblood
He is a scumbag and nothing would surprise me. Another thing that is possible is he's provoking the attacks to get sent to the hospital where he thinks a chance at an escape may be possible.
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I think you and Peanut are giving this piece of garbage too much credit. I doubt he is masterminding getting his ass kicked to torment the family or get to a hospital for an escape. He murdered a kid and his grandparents in a brutal fashion. Jailhouse justice is playing out whether the civilized folks on the outside agree with it or not. Jails are full of scary dudes who still have some morals. Apparently, murdering three people, chopping them up and using meat hooks during the process is deemed morally wrong by these fellow convicts. I can't say I disagree.
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03-07-2017, 08:20 PM
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#957
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Delgar
Depsite this, if on the odd chance I met one of the assailants of the second assault in a pub after their release, I'd make sure his drinks were covered.
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You may not have followed this one through. Mr. Garland is serving in a maximum security unit with similar offenders. So I bet you wouldn't cover their drinks once you found out why they were Doug's next door neighbours.
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03-07-2017, 08:25 PM
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#958
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One of the Nine
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Originally Posted by wwkayaker
I think you and Peanut are giving this piece of garbage too much credit. I doubt he is masterminding getting his ass kicked to torment the family or get to a hospital for an escape. He murdered a kid and his grandparents in a brutal fashion. Jailhouse justice is playing out whether the civilized folks on the outside agree with it or not. Jails are full of scary dudes who still have some morals. Apparently, murdering three people, chopping them up and using meat hooks during the process is deemed morally wrong by these fellow convicts. I can't say I disagree.
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I mostly agree with you, except that I think that it's all about the boy. Murdering an innocent little boy because you're mad at his grandfather is horrible. Even hardened criminals still remember the faces of their own children, nephews and nieces. And with not much else to do, beating a guy that did something as bad as this is probably a nice way to spend sunday afternoon. Bonus is that the free public aint even mad.
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03-07-2017, 08:30 PM
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#959
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One of the Nine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MBates
You may not have followed this one through. Mr. Garland is serving in a maximum security unit with similar offenders. So I bet you wouldn't cover their drinks once you found out why they were Doug's next door neighbours.
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I respect your professionalism, but he no longer deserves to be addressed so politely. He's not "Mr. Garland" and he's sure as FK not "Doug". He's Douglas Garland, or Garland.
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03-07-2017, 08:32 PM
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#960
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wwkayaker
I think you and Peanut are giving this piece of garbage too much credit. I doubt he is masterminding getting his ass kicked to torment the family or get to a hospital for an escape. He murdered a kid and his grandparents in a brutal fashion. Jailhouse justice is playing out whether the civilized folks on the outside agree with it or not. Jails are full of scary dudes who still have some morals. Apparently, murdering three people, chopping them up and using meat hooks during the process is deemed morally wrong by these fellow convicts. I can't say I disagree.
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It is really odd how everyone appears willing to speculate a chivilrous maximum security inmate as a do-gooder with a moral compass being the attacker since that makes it apparently easier to feel good about the jailhouse Justice.
If another kid murderer did it then what? Do we no longer like the guy or does his 'morality' carry the day?
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