[GDT] Blue Jackets vs Flames - 8:00 - SNet-W

[868904]

Originally Posted by Fan in Exile

Blair Jones with 8 goals, 12 assists in 15 games with the Heat. Several big goals and the clear leader down there. The Flames have to give him another shot or move him. Otherwise the whole "meritocracy" thing becomes even more of a joke.

The same goes for Ortio: 8-0 with a better GAA and save percentage than Berra had with the Heat (let alone the Flames). Berra has been mariginally better than Ramo or MacDonald but hardly invincible. If Ramo's not going to play, how about giving Ortio a shot? No waiver issues there.

For the Heat watchers out there. What type of game has Blair Jones been playing? Is he in an offensive role (1st/2nd line) or is he producing as a 3rd/4th liner?

I'd like to see him up too as he's a big guy and can skate and obviously has some offense, but if he's having success in an offensive role in Abbotsford, and you bring him up to play on the 4th line, doesn't seem to make much sense.

Is Blair Jones a better option than Backlund or Colborne in the roles they are playing now?

I can just see the outrage on this board if Jones was called up and replaced Backlund in the line up.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by nightfx

I don't want Ramo to take starts from Ortio

I guess this is true, Ortio has been incredible. I just hate seeing Ramo on the bench this much. I think he still has a lot of potential, but we'll never see it if he never plays.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Fan in Exile

Blair Jones with 8 goals, 12 assists in 15 games with the Heat. Several big goals and the clear leader down there. The Flames have to give him another shot or move him. Otherwise the whole "meritocracy" thing becomes even more of a joke.

The same goes for Ortio: 8-0 with a better GAA and save percentage than Berra had with the Heat (let alone the Flames). Berra has been mariginally better than Ramo or MacDonald but hardly invincible. If Ramo's not going to play, how about giving Ortio a shot? No waiver issues there.

Keep Ortio there for a while. Maybe call him up later in the year, but for now I just think he should be left in Abbotsford to pile up the wins and get as much playing time as possible. No reason to split up that team if they're winning pretty much every game.

[Bring_Back_Oliwa]

FREE JONI!!!!!

The Future is Already Here

[sureLoss]

Aaron Portzline ‏@Aportzline 27s
No Dubinsky tonight. #CBJ #Flames

Pat Steinberg ‏@Fan960Steinberg 9s
Bobrovsky starts for Columbus tonight.

[Zevo]

You're on the case bobrovsky!!

[Bertuzzied]

So following the theme from this weekend... we are up 2-0 until with 3 minutes in left in the 3rd, we turn it over 7 times and Tom Erixon scores a touchdown of goals giving the BJs a 7-2 win.

[nik-]

We win tonight. I for one am glad for the late start, because I'm likely going to be working until just after the game starts ... now I only have to miss one period instead of 2.5.

[tvp2003]

Interesting to see Berra drawing back in. Even if he's playing well, I think you have to give Ramo a game here and there to keep him sharp. Unless he establishes himself as the clearcut #1 (which I don't think he has yet), do you really want Berra playing 50-60 games this year?

[JobHopper]

After a big win against the Jets last game and scoring 4 goals in regulation the Flames have to be feeling good about this game tonight.

I would look for Monahan, Baertschi and Berra to have good games and lead the way in this one tonight.

Flames win 5-2.

[JobHopper]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

Interesting to see Berra drawing back in. Even if he's playing well, I think you have to give Ramo a game here and there to keep him sharp. Unless he establishes himself as the clearcut #1 (which I don't think he has yet), do you really want Berra playing 50-60 games this year?

He's still practicing with the big club so I won't worry about it to much. He'll get an opportunity.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Fan in Exile

Blair Jones with 8 goals, 12 assists in 15 games with the Heat. Several big goals and the clear leader down there. The Flames have to give him another shot or move him. Otherwise the whole "meritocracy" thing becomes even more of a joke.

The same goes for Ortio: 8-0 with a better GAA and save percentage than Berra had with the Heat (let alone the Flames). Berra has been mariginally better than Ramo or MacDonald but hardly invincible. If Ramo's not going to play, how about giving Ortio a shot? No waiver issues there.

I'm actually becoming a Jones fan. For reasons unknown Hartley banished him to the AHL seemingly for good and rather than pout ask for a trade, or become a distraction he's played with a chip on his shoulder and become a great soldier for the Heat organization. I imagine it will be like pulling teeth for Hartley to ever dress him again but at least Jones has taken the high road here.

[Freeway]

Double-header tonight on SNW: QMJHL vs. Russia at 5, Flames/Jackets at 8.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by JobHopper

He's still practicing with the big club so I won't worry about it to much. He'll get an opportunity.

Because that worked so well for the dozen or so goalies we had when Kipper was the starter?

Since Berra was called up, Ramo has played in only two games (one start in the second game of a back-to-back and one relief appearance). His overall numbers this season: 2-4-1, Sv% .882, GAA 3.59

Meanwhile, Berra has started 7 out of the last 8. His numbers: 2-4-1, Sv% .889, GAA 3.66.

I agree that numbers don't tell the whole story, and that Berra overall has played better that Ramo, but unless Berra is clearly outplaying Ramo in practice, I think Ramo needs a chance to step up his game in response to Berra's recent "success".

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I'm actually becoming a Jones fan. For reasons unknown Hartley banished him to the AHL seemingly for good and rather than pout ask for a trade, or become a distraction he's played with a chip on his shoulder and become a great soldier for the Heat organization. I imagine it will be like pulling teeth for Hartley to ever dress him again but at least Jones has taken the high road here.

I believe it's solely to do with his attitude/respect level. Jones see's himself as an offensive centerman, not a 4th line grinder. He can play the agitator role but has also got a very nice shot (backhand especially). Him being an agitator may easily translate to being snooty to coaching. My best guess is he demanded more ice-time and wasn't satisfied with his opportunity. He is a relatively young player with a unique skillset.

Unfortunately I don't see him coming back up unless we have several injuries up front or he's traded. Especially with Knight doing as well as he is. Not to mention Knight is the best face-off man in the Flames system which we desperately need right now.

Back onto topic, I have a good feeling about this game. Berra seemed so happy and relieved to get the SO win. I'm sure he doesn't want this one to even be close.

5-2 Flames.

[Gaskal]

4-1 Flames. Flames will finally get their fewest goals against this season against one of the worst in the league fresh off a shutout-blowout from one of the other worst teams in the league.

Columbus stays in the game until they get scored on, then fold.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Zevo

You're on the case bobrovsky!!

Hope the Flames kick him off the force.

[djsFlames]

Let Ortio build that confidence. Maybe he can get them on another 6-7 game win streak. Let him own it down there, and then when Gio is back and this D is up to snuff again then we allow him to come in for some NHL games and at least get some half decent defending in front of him. Berra's done great for the quality of defending we've been providing, but I wouldn't want to expose an even younger goalie to that amount of shots and quality chances each night. We're really exposing our goalies as things are. So let's ease him in when the situation is a bit more favorable.

[Robo]

How old is ortio?

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Hope the Flames kick him off the force.

I want to see him as a loose canon! when was the last time a Flames goalie fought? Kipper vs Vogoon?

I don't think the Noodles woodchopping Franzen started anything.