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Old 07-08-2016, 02:28 PM   #1
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AN ALTERNATIVE TO TIPPING
One of the first policies Earls.67 will be testing is a new compensation model for all staff who work here. Instead of the traditional tipping method, we will be implementing a 16% hospitality charge to all bills. The 16% will be paid to all staff that helped serve and prepare the meal from dishwashers, to chefs, to service staff, in the form of consistent wages.
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Old 07-08-2016, 02:30 PM   #2
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Earl's just continues to make dumb decisions that ensure I will never step foot in one again. No one is entitled to a tip.
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Good for the ktichen staff, but who would want to waitress there?
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I just came back from a short stay in Seattle and the hotel restaurant did the same thing (20%) though. I have mixed feelings on the situation because having worked in the service industry in the past I would be the first to tell anybody tips are earned not expected

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Good for the ktichen staff, but who would want to waitress there?
Exactly. I expect that they remove the tipping option on all Point of Sale machines.
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Old 07-08-2016, 02:33 PM   #6
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I'd go there just for this change. But I think it'll hurt them more than they think.
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Earl's just continues to make dumb decisions that ensure I will never step foot in one again. No one is entitled to a tip.
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As far as I know, tips always go to kitchen staff, dishwasher, etc. A portion of the servers tips go into a jar and split up between those behind the scenes.

I am sure the average tip out of that place is at least 16% so making this mandatory just looks poor on their part IMO.
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I don't believe in mandatory tipping, the fact that it's expected defeats the purpose entirely.
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As far as I know, tips always go to kitchen staff, dishwasher, etc. A portion of the servers tips go into a jar and split up between those behind the scenes.
I suppose it happens, but I never saw a kitchen where waitresses shared tips. Trained chefs leave the industry real quick when they see how much more the wait staff earns.
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Yeah, servers never tip out.
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Old 07-08-2016, 02:40 PM   #12
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It should be a 16% increase in the price of food and drink, not a 16% tax added after.

I know it's not a difference in the end but it gives people a straightforward pricing system. When I go out, price plays a factor in what I decide on.

If you need an extra 16% to pay your staff, raise prices by 16% and say "No Tipping Please." Don't call it a tip. It's not a tip.
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Sharing tips is nothing new to earls. I worked there in the early 90's as a server and every time I cashed out I had to give a percentage of my tips to kitchen staff, dishwashers, hostesses and the busboy.
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Interesting approach. I hate the whole concept of tipping so I'm glad that someone is trying this out. Probably will hurt them though.
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I really wish I ate at Earls just so I could stop eating there because of this.
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I really wish I ate at Earls just so I could stop eating there because of this.
Ther BS position on Alberta Beef wasn't enough?
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I suppose it happens, but I never saw a kitchen where waitresses shared tips. Trained chefs leave the industry real quick when they see how much more the wait staff earns.
It's quite common for servers to tip out.

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A : Any additional gratuity will be divided equally among all staff.
But that's going to be a huge issue for the servers. Usually tip-outs aren't anywhere close to even. Not sure what of the original 16% the servers keeps but it does sound like it's split even, that would make serving there less than ideal.

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Old 07-08-2016, 02:55 PM   #18
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Honestly, I don't like it if the minimum wage is being raised. Tips are supposed to supplement the low hourly wage that servers get. If that wage is now going to be $15 an hour, I don't see a need for mandatory tipping.
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I thought we all established in the beef thread that only plebs eat at earls and we wouldn't dare go slumming at earls.

Looking at that menu it is literally a regular earls menu except water is now mineral water and is $4.
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Ther BS position on Alberta Beef wasn't enough?
I'm quite disappointed they switched back. The US beef was a better product and you could tell.
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