Calgary Public Transit - Discussion

[TurnedTheCorner]

No escalators at the newest station? Also, I hope they don't include all of those mannequins in the final build, they'll just be in the way.

It looks like Rocky Ridge Road may finally lead somewhere again when this station is built.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

No escalators at the newest station? Also, I hope they don't include all of those mannequins in the final build, they'll just be in the way.

It looks like Rocky Ridge Road may finally lead somewhere again when this station is built.

Escalators have a very high cost of operation compared to elevators. Higher power usage, more maintenance, more people accidentally or intentionally hitting the emergency stop. I wouldn't expect to see down escalators at new or renovated train stations in the future. I imagine that Tuscany station is somewhat of a test of having no escalators.

[frinkprof]

^Yes. At many stations one or both escalators are not operational a significant amount of time.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by frinkprof

^Yes. At many stations one or both escalators are not operational a significant amount of time.

I agree that this is true, and I'm not sure I understand why that is. Escalators at train stations seem to be operational a much smaller percentage of the time than escalators at other places.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

I agree that this is true, and I'm not sure I understand why that is. Escalators at train stations seem to be operational a much smaller percentage of the time than escalators at other places.

I am betting budget concerns are a major factor.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Rathji

I am betting budget concerns are a major factor.

Fair enough, but you'd think having them down for maintenance twice as often would cost about twice as much money. Or does CT use non-OEM parts and much cheaper labour or something?

[Rathji]

I think you misunderstood what I meant.

Having them sit broken costs less money than fixing them immediately. Either they have a shortage of people on staff to deal with them or they just choose not to call in people to fix them in a rush when it happens.

[Jimmy Stang]

I'm OK with the lack of escalators, and this will be the station that I'll use the most once it is built. The elevators will do the trick for people who need them, and the rest of our lazy asses can benefit from the activity. It appears that the Tuscany side has a fair amount of steps leading up to the station too.

In a high-volume station like Crowfoot, the escalators are necessary. In a suburban station that won't see the same volumes, I like the idea of keeping costs (both immediate and future) down is a good thing.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Rathji

I think you misunderstood what I meant.

Having them sit broken costs less money than fixing them immediately. Either they have a shortage of people on staff to deal with them or they just choose not to call in people to fix them in a rush when it happens.

My experience must be different than yours. The escalator(s) at the Dalhousie CTrain station work much less often than you would expect, and the vast majority of the time they're not functional someone is there with the yellow "Preventative Maintenance" gates working on them.

[frinkprof]

As posted by You Need A Thneed at SSP. Not sure why he hasn't posted them here yet, but I'll take the liberty of doing so.

Originally Posted by You Need A Thneed

Pictures of the test LRV on the new NE extension:

Interesting to think that in a matter of months you will be able to have a single-seat ride on the train from the far northeast of the city to the far west side of the city and vice versa.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by frinkprof

As posted by You Need A Thneed at SSP. Not sure why he hasn't posted them here yet, but I'll take the liberty of doing so.

Interesting to think that in a matter of months you will be able to have a single-seat ride on the train from the far northeast of the city to the far west side of the city and vice versa.

The exact two places the respective residents never venture.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by 4X4

The exact two places the respective residents never venture.

People from all over Calgary travel to see the majestic and beautiful Sunridge Superstore.

[frinkprof]

Originally Posted by 4X4

The exact two places the respective residents never venture.

It's probably quite true in many respects, despite the "live west, work east" overall trend in Calgary.

It will be interesting to see just how empty reverse-peak-direction trains will be during rush hours, especially westbound.

I don't think the south and northwest areas of the city have a uniquely strong a synergy either (although there is some there to be sure). The northwest has the academic/research corridor with SAIT and the U of C as well as the intermittently huge-volume trip generator with McMahon Stadium. The south line has the MacLeod Trail retail/employment corridor, the region's highest-volume shopping centre, another sizeable shopping centre, another intermittently high-volume trip generator (and more frequent than McMahon too) in the Saddledome/Stampede grounds. The Glenmore/Macleod node is also the geographic centre of the city, which says a lot too.

In contrast the west line serves an almost entirely and predominantly affluent residential catchment area save for a small academic cluster at 69th Street, a dying small shopping centre in Westbrook and by proxy MRU. The west line should have respectable peak hour, peak direction ridership but off peak ridership will be pretty low.

[RW99]

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[Notorious Honey Badger]

Does anyone have a map where the Tuscany and Rocky Ridge stations will be?

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

People from all over Calgary travel to see the majestic and beautiful Sunridge Superstore.

I liked the green And yellow as opposed to the blue and white it was recently painted.

[frinkprof]

Originally Posted by Notorious Honey Badger

Does anyone have a map where the Tuscany and Rocky Ridge stations will be?

Not sure about Rocky Ridge, but here's a map roughly of where the Tuscany Station is:

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Notorious Honey Badger

Does anyone have a map where the Tuscany and Rocky Ridge stations will be?

In the median of crowchild, just west of Stoney Trail.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by frinkprof

As posted by You Need A Thneed at SSP. Not sure why he hasn't posted them here yet, but I'll take the liberty of doing so.

Interesting to think that in a matter of months you will be able to have a single-seat ride on the train from the far northeast of the city to the far west side of the city and vice versa.

I'm looking forward to riding the whole thing.

[frinkprof]

For real though,

Originally Posted by Notorious Honey Badger

Does anyone have a map where the Tuscany and Rocky Ridge stations will be?

There is just one station in question here called "Tuscany." It will be adjacent to and serve both the Rocky Ridge and Tuscany communities. There will be 2 sides to the park and ride, one on the community of Rocky Ridge side and the other on the community of Tuscany side.




From: http://www.calgarytransit.com/pdf/ct...twork_plan.pdf