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killer_carlson · 10-26-2014, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike F

CBC is a media company in the business of attracting viewers. If they reasonably believe the behaviours of an employee will harm their ability to carry out that business then, subject to human rights laws, it's completely appropriate for them to fire that employee.

Chances are Gomeshi had a contract that detailed events that would allow for termination, and the lawsuit will be based on contractual interpretation. Outside of a contract, any employer can fire an employee at any time without cause provided sufficient notice or compensation in lieu of notice is given (at least in BC)

well if sufficient notice or compensation was given, it wouldn't be wrongful dismissal.

I think what you are saying is that there may be contractual terms which would provide "just cause", rendering compensation unnecessary.

c.t.ner · 10-26-2014, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MarchHare

If Jian's Facebook is 100% the truth, then he most definitely is entitled to claim he was wrongfully terminated. What goes on in the bedrooms of consenting adults is of absolutely nobody's business except the people involved.

Something tells me we haven't yet heard the full story, though.

This.

I know the CBC (and corporations in general) don't make the best choices, but Jian is one of the network's biggest money makers, so I don't think they made this decision solely based on him being a bit freaky in the bedroom. My gut would say they have other information that may contradict what Jian said.

I like Jian and I think he's a great talent, but regardless I want to hear all of the sides of the story before I make any decisions.

Mike F · 10-26-2014, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

I fail to see the connection. People who are into BDSM are generally more respecting of peoples boundaries and wishes. What they are in to don't make them less of a person.

I don't really care if you're harming someone within their boundaries or not. If you get off on causing pain or humiliation, you're a scumbag.

opendoor · 10-26-2014, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RyZ

Very interesting. I wonder what this is all about. If Jann Arden knows "something", I'm betting she is not the only one.

Seems to be a pretty common theme. Here's a tweet from a music critic that has occasionally appeared on Q:

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Carl Wilson ‏@carlzoilus

Won't say more till the facts are out, but reflecting gravely on my own spots on Q - a form of complicity, given what I knew even then?

I'd be extremely surprised if there's not far more to the story than what Ghomeshi's statement (which was undoubtedly vetted by his PR and legal teams) lets on.

Mike F · 10-26-2014, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by killer_carlson

well if sufficient notice or compensation was given, it wouldn't be wrongful dismissal.

I think what you are saying is that there may be contractual terms which would provide "just cause", rendering compensation unnecessary.

Either they didn't give him, in his mind, sufficient compensation, or he disagrees that the grounds on which they terminated him were breaches of his contract. Or a mix of both.

killer_carlson · 10-26-2014, 06:04 PM

or it's part of a PR strategy from a well experienced PR firm trying to colour the water and get a head of the story.

There is too much unknown at this point, including whether there is a criminal investigation or charges coming.

Kjesse · 10-26-2014, 06:09 PM

A very thorough statement by Ghomeshi, and driving hard on the issue of consent. It will be interesting to hear the rest of the story. If the only version of the events here was one of consent, I doubt this would have gone this far, but we'll see.

Some blogger/journalist wrote an article a year or so ago calling him a creep and describing their date. That's not to say the article was true, but it could become a piece of this puzzle should things progess.

DownhillGoat · 10-26-2014, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike F

I don't really care if you're harming someone within their boundaries or not. If you get off on causing pain or humiliation, you're a scumbag.

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Originally Posted by Mike F

I think there's a wiring problem, but pleasure from being the recipient of pain, and pleasure at causing pain in others, are completely different beasts, IMO.

So if both parties get pleasure from being the recipent of pain, how exactly is it supposed to work if no one causes said pain?

And saying there's a "wiring problem" because someone enjoys something outside of a pretty vanilla sex life is like saying they have a wiring problem because they prefer steak over bacon. It's preferences that are pretty hard wired. Some of the views in this thread are pretty unbelieveable.

As far as the actual story goes, I'll hold off on judgement until the rest of the story comes to light. Horrible if it is in fact purely slander.

1stLand · 10-26-2014, 06:17 PM

I always thought Gomeshi was Italian.

Sounds like he had a jilted ex gf.

I believe him.

Women are crazy these days! No Joke!

Don't believe me, just watch GONE GIRL

JonDuke · 10-26-2014, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cameron Swift

Complete speculation obviously, but I can only presume this is a drug addiction issue.

MarchHare · 10-26-2014, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 1stLand

I always thought Gomeshi was Italian.

Sounds like he had a jilted ex gf.

I believe him.

Women are crazy these days! No Joke!

Don't believe me, just watch GONE GIRL

RougeUnderoos · 10-26-2014, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper

I like that you have (based on this and the other thread) completely judged him and his character based solely on rumours. It shows a commitment to to closemindedness that is to be admired.

The rumors are out there. I don't see how mentioning that they exist constitutes "completely judged him and his character".

I'm a fan of the guy and I like(d) his show. From what I've read just this afternoon, calling him "handy" is pretty tame. Hopefully, it all turns out to be a bunch of garbage and he is vindicated, but it is not looking good right now.

Ozy_Flame · 10-26-2014, 06:33 PM

Geez I didn't know he is 47.

Arya Stark · 10-26-2014, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

As the father of a daughter in her twenties, this is the kind of scum bag I warn my daughter to steer clear of, consensual or not the guys a creep.

Sex is bad. Booogy boogy boogy.

Blaster86 · 10-26-2014, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MarchHare

Minnie · 10-26-2014, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 1stLand

I always thought Gomeshi was Italian.

Sounds like he had a jilted ex gf.

I believe him.

Women are crazy these days! No Joke!

Don't believe me, just watch GONE GIRL

You are very odd sometimes.

Flabbibulin · 10-26-2014, 06:38 PM

Im no PR expert, but I would think Ghomeshi getting in front of this and releasing this very detailed statement, from his perspective, is a good move.

#-3 · 10-26-2014, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Sorry my middle aged Englishness confused you, being handy in my culture refers to unwanted attention to the fair sex, very unwanted attention.

Oh, that would be "Handsy"

Handy is talking about using your hand to stimulate someone.

Arya Stark · 10-26-2014, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Rumours that he is a bit 'handy' if you know what I mean.

Yeah, we know what you mean

Why would you think anyone would understand this?

flylock shox · 10-26-2014, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Flabbibulin

Im no PR expert, but I would think Ghomeshi getting in front of this and releasing this very detailed statement, from his perspective, is a good move.

Agreed.

Reduces the shock when the more damaging version of events comes out, and ensures the conversation is already ongoing by the time the new info comes to light.

It all goes to hell though if it's not just one ex gf, and a parade of women come forward with more minor comments.