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Old 11-11-2013, 10:07 AM   #1041
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LOL

Okay then.

Don't think a guy emasculated team so I don't understand hockey. I guess that pathetic line of thinking makes it easier for you to dismiss people that don't agree with you on everything but it is about the dumbest/laziest way to argue a point when it comes to sports. Only slightly better than the I played AAA did you arguement that comes out every once and awhile.
I have never dismissed someone like that on this board until today. It's not a throwaway comment I just gave to you. That comment was from the accumulation of ridiculous statements I have witnessed you give on this board since I joined in 2008. I've been 5 years giving you the benefit of the doubt, actually defending your comments sometimes, taking you as the devil's advocate.

This Gaudreau dismissing by you though was just the straw that broke the camels back. Seriously, just take that third USA goal alone by Gaudreau, forget about any other play that game, that goal emasculates the team. It broke the fricken spirit of the team. They knew they couldn't come back from a 3-0 deficit. That's the definition of an emasculating play.

But back to the main point, there just comes a time where you lose all credibility in my mind, and today was that point. It's most definitely not a "I Don't think a guy emasculated team so I don't understand hockey". It's way, way, more than that, and today just happened to be the day when I finally just got convinced that you really, really, just don't see the game the same way that 99% of the rest of the fans see it.
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:12 AM   #1042
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today just happened to be the day when I finally just got convinced that you really, really, just don't see the game the same way that 99% of the rest of the fans see it.
You are welcome to your opinions and if you are going to post like this then I am happy that it appears you won't be responding to me in the future but this last line is 100% BS.

Despite my reputation for the most part (well over 50% probably around 80%) my posts on CP are agreed with by many and are very mundane typical CP posts. It is just that lately based on people's perception of me my posts get blown up into things they aren't.

I thought Gaudreau very good that game, probably the best player for either team. I didn't think he emasculated team Canada and didn't think he was step above everyone else. That really isn't a crazy statement and probably not that different from what a lot of hockey people thought after watching the game as well.
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:50 AM   #1043
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:55 AM   #1044
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Gaudreau is second in college scoring, one point in arrears but has a game in hand.

http://www.uscho.com/stats/overall/d...men/2013-2014/

Arnold is tied for 8th.

and yeah, using the word "emasculation" of Team Canada is over the top.
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:58 AM   #1045
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...Despite my reputation for the most part (well over 50% probably around 80%) my posts on CP are agreed with by many and are very mundane typical CP posts. It is just that lately based on people's perception of me my posts get blown up into things they aren't...
Really? Are you honestly going to claim that you are being unfairly stereotyped based on misconceptions and poor perceptions?

No. Your public persona has been well earned, but let's not confuse why people consider you a negative pessimist. It is not because most of your posts are "negative" (although I do think it is quite possibly so). It is rather that you make it a point to quell optimism, and you very frequently will go out of your way to exaggerate the downside of positive claims as they pertain specifically to the Calgary Flames. For example?

CP concensus: "The Smid trade was a really good one."
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CP concensus: "Gaudreau is a dominant prospect with a high offensive ceiling."
moon: "Sure, but he is not as good as you think he is."

I can understand some of this, but you do it with SUCH regularity and to SUCH extremes some times, that it honestly looks as though you really are intent to foster misery among Flames fans. I guess what I am curious to know is why you can't just leave well enough alone. When people are excited, or when they make points to emphasise positive elements of this hockey team, you really don't need to persistently provide any correction. Sometimes, there really is no need for someone to point to "cold, hard reality".

You should try it some time.
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...and yeah, using the word "emasculation" of Team Canada is over the top.
Maybe. But does it require anyone to point that out? Sometimes the better course of action is just to leave well enough alone.
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Gaudreau is second in college scoring, one point in arrears but has a game in hand.

http://www.uscho.com/stats/overall/d...men/2013-2014/

Arnold is tied for 8th.

and yeah, using the word "emasculation" of Team Canada is over the top.
It's a ####ing adjective.
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Old 11-11-2013, 11:13 AM   #1048
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I think those last two goals should earn the first ever cursing prospect thread title.

"John F***ing Gaudreau"
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Maybe. But does it require anyone to point that out? Sometimes the better course of action is just to leave well enough alone.
Well I would have left it alone as just some idiot poorly expressing himself but since it became a subject to be discussed, I chimed in.
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Really? Are you honestly going to claim that you are being unfairly stereotyped based on misconceptions and poor perceptions?
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moon: "I guess, but he doesn't move the puck well, and is not a great skater."
I said I liked the Smid deal and that the Flames won it. You focus instead about a comment made when discussing the type of player Smid is. (and I don't think I commented on his skating)

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I guess what I am curious to know is why you can't just leave well enough alone. When people are excited, or when they make points to emphasise positive elements of this hockey team, you really don't need to persistently provide any correction. Sometimes, there really is no need for someone to point to "cold, hard reality".
I leave plenty alone and make my comments when I feel like it. Not sure why I should hold back just because you and some others don't like my opinion.
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Old 11-11-2013, 11:28 AM   #1051
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I'm pretty sure he led the tournament in goal scoring, so pick whatever adjective you want, he played pretty darn well against the top group of his peers. I also recall a gold medal... so yea, that's two easy #1's to attach next to his name from that tournament.

Johnny is unreal. You can tell he's unreal because the opinion of him isn't driven by this forum, or even flames fans in general. It's driven from the college hockey community and the scouting world. You don't have to go to a Flames bias site to find a "Johnny frickin Gaudreau" style thread.

http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2013...s-van-riemsdyk

Top contender for Hobey Baker. What are we even arguing about here.

This thread is specifically to celebrate the success and discuss the potential ceiling for a promising prospect. If it doesn't thrill you, click the little x button in the top corner of your window.

moon: 90% of what you post (your little bickerings) should be PMs. Don't flood my favorite threads with your drivel.
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...I leave plenty alone and make my comments when I feel like it. Not sure why I should hold back just because you and some others don't like my opinion.
You can go ahead and post what you want, but I would recommend not following up with complaints about how you are being unfairly perceived. If you come across like a sour grouse, well, own it.
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I don't think anyone took your question wrong - it was a valid question that needs to be asked.

It's just that the answers are all so overwhelmingly positive from the people that see him a lot. This kid doesn't just do these things every once in a while, he literally does it every game.

As for him being fine for 5 months - absolutely. When I said get him out of there ASAP, I meant in 5 months. Any longer, i.e. another year, would be detrimental to his development.

But even in 5 months, he is at risk of developing bad habits. He is simply too good for the NCAA at this point.

Totally agree, I think I was the one who misread things. Great points.
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moon: 90% of what you post (your little bickerings) should be PMs. Don't flood my favorite threads with your drivel.
Feel free to not read or ignore them then.
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Janko 13th in goals too.

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Gaudreau is second in college scoring, one point in arrears but has a game in hand.

http://www.uscho.com/stats/overall/d...men/2013-2014/

Arnold is tied for 8th.

and yeah, using the word "emasculation" of Team Canada is over the top.
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Hmm Calgary Flames property #1 and #2, things are looking good..
We've gone from being worst in the league at prospects to what, top 5?

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I'm pretty sure he led the tournament in goal scoring, so pick whatever adjective you want, he played pretty darn well against the top group of his peers. I also recall a gold medal... so yea, that's two easy #1's to attach next to his name from that tournament.

Johnny is unreal. You can tell he's unreal because the opinion of him isn't driven by this forum, or even flames fans in general. It's driven from the college hockey community and the scouting world. You don't have to go to a Flames bias site to find a "Johnny frickin Gaudreau" style thread.

http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2013...s-van-riemsdyk

Top contender for Hobey Baker. What are we even arguing about here.

This thread is specifically to celebrate the success and discuss the potential ceiling for a promising prospect. If it doesn't thrill you, click the little x button in the top corner of your window.

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Old 11-11-2013, 12:48 PM   #1057
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Well I would have left it alone as just some idiot poorly expressing himself but since it became a subject to be discussed, I chimed in.
For the third time, it's an adjective. Now you can either get hung up on whether it's the word YOU in your infinite wisdom would've used, or you could see it as a synonym for any number of overused words used to describe athletic performance ie Dominant etc. Or just gfy.
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Hmm Calgary Flames property #1 and #2, things are looking good..
We've gone from being worst in the league at prospects to what, top 5?
Top 15 definitely, maybe top 10. We're still missing some of the really high-end prospects needed to be in the top-5 I think, especially on the back end.
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Mike Morreale ‏@mikemorrealeNHL 38s Calgry Flames prospect Johnny Gaudreau, the nation's leading point scorer (9-9-18), was named Hockey East Plyr of the Wk (3-4-7 in 2 gms).
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Hmm Calgary Flames property #1 and #2, things are looking good..
We've gone from being worst in the league at prospects to what, top 5?
According to the most recent HF article the Flames are 13th
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