02-28-2011, 05:15 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Is Pelech now officially a bust?
The signs have been coming this year.
1. The Flames risk him going through waivers to assign him to Abbotsford. Something they were unwilling to do with Pardy a few years ago.
2. Claim Brendan Mikkelson off waivers from Anaheim for the 7th dman spot.
3. Claim Brett Carson off waivers to fill a need in a depth dman instead of looking at the farm.
4. Feaster publicly calling him out and saying that if Pelech can't handle AHL forwards, how can he handle NHL forwards at today's press conference.
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02-28-2011, 05:23 PM
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tromboner
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Exposing him to waivers alone means if not a bust, he's at least a blown pick.
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02-28-2011, 05:24 PM
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I'm actually really suprised he got called out by Feaster. He isn't terrible in the AHL. But with his injury history, the fact that he seems to be made of glass, his on ice discipline and his ceiling being compared to that of a Jim Vandemeer. Well, I don't know about bust, but definitely not a first rounder.
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02-28-2011, 05:57 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by jeremywilhelm
I'm actually really suprised he got called out by Feaster. He isn't terrible in the AHL. But with his injury history, the fact that he seems to be made of glass, his on ice discipline and his ceiling being compared to that of a Jim Vandemeer. Well, I don't know about bust, but definitely not a first rounder.
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That right there is the definition of a bust. Pelech is a bust. 4 full seasons in the minors, 5 games of NHL experience, passing through waivers, the team taking other D-men on waivers instead of calling him up. Pelech probably wouldn't even be the first D-man called up and his chances will be even slimmer when Erixon comes over next year.
Pelech may still make the NHL, but I doubt he will ever rise beyond the #6 spot. Pelech hasn't lived up to his billing, potential, and is a bust.
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02-28-2011, 06:15 PM
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At one camp he was giving Pardy a run for the 7th defence spot but he hasn't progressed. Maybe due to injury or maybe he just doesn't have the talent. It looked like the writing was on the wall when he wasn't put on the veterans side in the last camp.
Maybe Feaster calling him out will be a wake up call to work on his game. He hasn't got a lot of time left, especially with this team.
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02-28-2011, 06:47 PM
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Franchise Player
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I give him a year or two more. He's 23 and still has a bit of time to work up to an NHL regular. Will he ever be the next Regehr some called him a while ago? No. Could he still become a usable NHL regular? Possibly. I could still see him as a good #6/7 on a pro team similar to an Ole-Kristian Tollefsen (more if he manages to work out some of his durability problems).
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02-28-2011, 07:58 PM
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certainly not the best sign, but he's only played 5 NHL games, and I think Feaster doesn't want to drop him into a playoff race, versus next october when games are not as intense
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02-28-2011, 08:17 PM
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Backup Goalie
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The impression I got from the Feaster interview, was that Pelech, still needs some work
and that it would not be fair to ether Pelech or the Flames to put him in now, with all that is at risk. That is not to rule out, them giving him a good shot to prove him self next year,when there would be more time and forgiveness for mistakes.
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02-28-2011, 08:40 PM
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I don't think the guy is a bust. He's just not ready for the NHL because of the speed. I've seen him play in a couple of pre-season and I was not really that impressed with his play. I know a lot of people are putting stock on the guy. He is a defenseman and usually defenseman and goalies takes longer to mature. I wouldn't really give up on this guy. Just because Calgary picked D Brett Carson off waiver, it doesn't mean the Flames are giving up on a guy.
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02-28-2011, 09:15 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Moscow, ID
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I don't know if he even gets qualified. Especially with Erixon being added next year.
Bouwmeester
Regehr
Giordano
Sarich
Babchuk (or Babchuk replacement)
Carson
Mikkelson
Erixon
Brodie
Breen
Pelech
11th on the depth chart and not far ahead of those behind him. I guess there's room for him to be qualified and give him one more camp/season to prove himself.
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02-28-2011, 09:16 PM
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Chucko, Pelech, Irving.... 3 years in a row and no NHL impact as of today... it really puts the team at a disadvantage when you don't get anything out of your first round picks.
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02-28-2011, 10:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder
I don't know if he even gets qualified. Especially with Erixon being added next year.
Bouwmeester
Regehr
Giordano
Sarich
Babchuk (or Babchuk replacement)
Carson
Mikkelson
Erixon
Brodie
Breen
Pelech
11th on the depth chart and not far ahead of those behind him. I guess there's room for him to be qualified and give him one more camp/season to prove himself.
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You kind of forgot Pardy there...
Anyways, I just find it hard to believe that Pelech can't keep up to AHL forwards. He seemed to skate a bit better than Sarich from what I could tell.
Ah well, nice to have the depth....
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02-28-2011, 10:34 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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I'm of the opinion that who cares.
Guys like Carson, Mikkelsson and Pardy are all better than Pelech and were basically free or a mid round pick. We have a bunch of other players coming up, and having a couple bust (Pelech, Negrin) isn't the end of the world.
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02-28-2011, 10:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
I'm of the opinion that who cares.
Guys like Carson, Mikkelsson and Pardy are all better than Pelech and were basically free or a mid round pick. We have a bunch of other players coming up, and having a couple bust (Pelech, Negrin) isn't the end of the world.
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I wouldnt call Pelech has a bust yet.
Negrin turns 22 in March and has had injury problems the past couple years..not sure why you are calling him a bust right now..
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02-28-2011, 10:51 PM
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Pelech could very well be a bust, tough for the kid to develop properly with all those injuries though.
Just for kicks I had to go back and look to see who we could have drafted instead that year....
#26 - Matt Pelech
#28 - Matt Niskanen
#33 - James Neal
#35 - Marc-Eduard Vlasic
#44 - Paul Stastny
Ouch, I gotta quit doin' that.
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02-28-2011, 10:52 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beerfest
Way to early to call either one a bust..especially Negrin..
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I know. Probably a year or two to completely write them off, like Chucko. But if they do, it's not a big deal.
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02-28-2011, 10:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
I know. Probably a year or two to completely write them off, like Chucko. But if they do, it's not a big deal.
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I edited my post a bit, but you quoted it before I could, haha.
If Negrin can stay healthy next year will be huge for him.
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02-28-2011, 11:04 PM
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beerfest
I edited my post a bit, but you quoted it before I could, haha.
If Negrin can stay healthy next year will be huge for him.
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I'm hoping that they can be healthy and develop into something useful down the road, but really with getting Mikkelsson and Carson, it's almost as if they got players that replace what both Negrin and Pelech should've developed into by now.
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02-28-2011, 11:28 PM
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Posted the 6 millionth post!
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God, the Flames drafting is atrocious. After almost 20 years of poor draft picks, I have no qualms saying that and is quite honestly one of the most frustrating things about the organization.
I love the Flames, but enough is enough already.
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03-01-2011, 01:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by koop
Chucko, Pelech, Irving.... 3 years in a row and no NHL impact as of today... it really puts the team at a disadvantage when you don't get anything out of your first round picks.
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At least Irving is playing pretty well in the AHL this year, is he not?
With Kipper our starter for a few more years still, no need to rush him, especially if we have Karlsson as a back-up. I'd rather have Irving down in the AHL getting a ton of game time over him sitting on the bench with the Flames.
I know you didn't say he is a busy, just saying there is no rush on him as he is improving still. It isn't like we need him right now anyway so it isn't hurting the team. Unlike if we had a good forward prospect who didn't do anything (Chucko).
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