02-17-2017, 01:02 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Please explain how the vetting of impact statements fits into the defense of a convicted killer.
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since you asked so nicely...
It is because the purpose of a Victim Impact Statement is to allow the victims' to provide an account of the personal harm they suffered as a result of the crime. It is designed to give victims a chance to be heard, which I think is an important step forward that we have taken in recent years. Further, the judge HAS to take the Victim Impact Statement into account when it comes to sentencing.
It isn't there so you can condemn someone to hell, or discuss his appearance during the trial. Neither of those comments detail the impact that the crime had on the victim. But they might induce some bias when it comes to sentencing. And I don't think anyone wants this case to leave even the slightest chance of an appeal, so I can understand why the defence argued that the statements should be removed, and I understand why the judge agreed to remove some of it.
(didn't take it as a dick post - it is a highly emotional issue and people get riled up about it)
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02-17-2017, 01:40 PM
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#742
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: DeWinton
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Nancy Hixt @NancyHixt 17s17 seconds ago
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Gates asks #Garland if he wants to say anything- he says "no"
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02-17-2017, 01:44 PM
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#743
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by CedarMeter
Nancy Hixt @NancyHixt 17s17 seconds ago
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Gates asks #Garland if he wants to say anything- he says "no"
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I hope he is as defeated mentally as he is legally.
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02-17-2017, 01:45 PM
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#744
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Canehdianman
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But, but....scumbag lawyers rabble rabble!
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02-17-2017, 01:48 PM
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#745
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Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by Canehdianman
since you asked so nicely...
It is because the purpose of a Victim Impact Statement is to allow the victims' to provide an account of the personal harm they suffered as a result of the crime. It is designed to give victims a chance to be heard, which I think is an important step forward that we have taken in recent years. Further, the judge HAS to take the Victim Impact Statement into account when it comes to sentencing.
It isn't there so you can condemn someone to hell, or discuss his appearance during the trial. Neither of those comments detail the impact that the crime had on the victim. But they might induce some bias when it comes to sentencing. And I don't think anyone wants this case to leave even the slightest chance of an appeal, so I can understand why the defence argued that the statements should be removed, and I understand why the judge agreed to remove some of it.
(didn't take it as a dick post - it is a highly emotional issue and people get riled up about it)
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Thanks.
I guess in my mind "his appearance during the trial" also impacts the family. IE: it might be easier to take if he showed some emotion/remorse, but by all accounts he was like a rock.
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02-17-2017, 01:49 PM
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#746
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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Nancy Hixt @NancyHixt 8m8 minutes ago
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#Garland found guilty Feb 16/17 of three counts first degree murder in deaths of Nathan O'Brien & grandparents Alvin & Kathy Liknes
Nancy Hixt @NancyHixt 4m4 minutes ago
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Sentence begins on date of arrest- July 14/14 for #Garland
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02-17-2017, 02:06 PM
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Valerie Fortney from the Herald has had the most detailed twitter feed through the trial in my opinion. Would have been difficult to do.
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02-17-2017, 02:10 PM
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#748
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Kevin Martin @KMartinCourts now
#Garland must serve a minimum 75 years before he can seek parole, Justice David Gates rules.
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02-17-2017, 02:10 PM
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#749
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Nancy Hixt @NancyHixt now
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Breaking: Douglas #Garland sentenced to life, no parole for 75 years
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02-17-2017, 02:10 PM
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#750
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Valerie Fortney @ValFortney 2m2 minutes ago
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"Mr. #Garland, you have done a terrible thing ... the circumstances defy description."
Valerie Fortney @ValFortney 3m3 minutes ago
Judge: denunciation, communicating community values part of sentencing. #Garland
Valerie Fortney @ValFortney 4m4 minutes ago
Judge: sentence today not just about #Garland and age he will be. It is about the whole community.
Valerie Fortney @ValFortney 5m5 minutes ago
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Judge: moral blameworthiness "very, very high," a cunning plan to torture and kill. #Garland
Valerie Fortney @ValFortney 6m6 minutes ago
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Judge: agrees with Crown that #Garland has aggravating factors, notes he offered no expression of regret or remorse when asked.
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02-17-2017, 02:12 PM
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#751
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75 years, good job Justice Gates.
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02-17-2017, 02:14 PM
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#752
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Location: Chicago
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Good job, all.
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02-17-2017, 02:16 PM
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#753
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Very tough case, well done by everyone, a just decision.
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02-17-2017, 02:17 PM
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#754
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Book = thrown. Good.
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02-17-2017, 02:19 PM
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#755
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First Line Centre
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Nothing will bring back the victims, but it feels like justice has been done here.
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02-17-2017, 02:21 PM
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#756
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Originally Posted by killer_carlson
Valerie Fortney @ValFortney 6m6 minutes ago
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Judge: agrees with Crown that #Garland has aggravating factors, notes he offered no expression of regret or remorse when asked.
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Horrible
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02-17-2017, 02:22 PM
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#757
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Originally Posted by automaton 3
Nothing will bring back the victims, but it feels like justice has been done here.
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Yup-
Nancy Hixt @NancyHixt 11m11 minutes ago
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#Garland shows no emotion-family claps as sentence passed
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02-17-2017, 02:23 PM
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#758
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Calgary
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Good riddance
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02-17-2017, 02:24 PM
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#759
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One of the Nine
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Now the family never has to worry about him applying for parole. Never has to think about him again, except that they'll think about it every day for the rest of their lives.
Patti Garland deserves some kind of medal of honour for informing the police so quickly. If that meticulous psychopath had any extra time, he would have gotten rid of all the DNA evidence at the farm.
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02-17-2017, 02:24 PM
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#760
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Hearing the details in the trial of the torture involved, just made this whole case so much worse. I will never forget that, the horror of knowing that as the judge said is unspeakable for the family. I hope they find some peace and joy again in their lives.
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